Such supplications work for the necessities too but it does not mean that human leave the material demand and sit on only for spiritual success. Material demands shall be settled first and the shortcomings are filled by spiritual supplications to God.

Imagine if you continually pray with out food and water. The end result will be death to you. In order to be enriched with spirituality, your material body shall be viable. That is how we supplicate to enrich ourselves against odds (Amen).

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I saw the rain prediction on Yahoo weather a week ago!

=^..^=

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To be fair Salat Al Istisqa is only for when the rain is late in Winter

That’s cheating!

There’s going to be an eclipse today… they could combine both prayers and get a two-for-one deal.

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can they pray again in jun-aug timeframe please?

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Strong winds and Rains outside.

Winds: From SSE 13 km/h according to Weather.com. People prayed and got the rain.

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I know for a fact Newton was a self-proclaimed athiest. He was more than that.

Try google. Here some useful places to start:
http://www.isaac-newton.org/
http://www.newtonproject.ic.ac.uk/prism.php?id=44

In one of the tracts Newton writes:

Atheism is so senseless & odious to mankind that it never had many professors.

Newton was not an atheist, but rather, a heretic… there is a big difference. Newton rejected many orthodox views of christianity (eg Trinitarianism), but he was still a strong believer in religion.

This raises a very important point. Mahmood wrote:

However the point is that if a scientist stopped his or her exploration of scientific boundaries because his or her God says that particular area is a no no, or why bother as it has been proven in religious text anyway, well, that’s just nonsense.

Certainly, dogma, orthodoxy and the church have put down strict limits (often with threats of violence) on the exploration of scientists. However a personal belief in a god/religion does not of necessity impose such limits on scientists. Many of the luminary scientists I listed in my previous comment were, like Newton, criticized by the orthodoxy for their scientific endeavours, but maintained their own intense personal religious beliefs.

Mahmood said:

What I am stating is mere fact: there is no way that any amount of prayer can change the weather.

This is certainly not a very scientific fact. What kind of scientific experiment could you conduct to conclusively prove the statement?? A more agreeable statement would be:

There is no conclusive scientific evidence to prove a causal relationship between prayer and weather.

Quite a large leap is required to jump from the latter assertion to the former.

But anyways, if you want to assert that prayer is unscientific, then that is fine (and I would agree!), but you can’t at the same time claim that you seprating science and religion. The statement implies that you are making a scientific assertion about religion. This is exactly the same (but inverted) as those people who try to justify religion based on science (like this hilarious work).

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Second, Chanad, what does the list of scientists mean? I know for a fact Newton was a self-proclaimed athiest. He was more than that. Its like saying Darwin believed in creation.

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