Comments on: Another attempt at Big Brother coming up… http://mahmood.tv/2006/08/03/another-attempt-at-big-brother-coming-up/ An Arab man's attempt at bridging the cultural gap and trying to make a difference. Failing a lot. Succeeding once in a while. Sun, 12 Feb 2012 11:28:35 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Mahmood’s Den · Google Earth Blocked in Bahrain http://mahmood.tv/2006/08/03/another-attempt-at-big-brother-coming-up/comment-page-1/#comment-33652 Mahmood’s Den · Google Earth Blocked in Bahrain Mon, 07 Aug 2006 06:39:58 +0000 http://mahmood.tv/?p=2660#comment-33652 [...] Now we know why the Ministry of DISinformation is so desperate to control the Internet: [...] [...] Now we know why the Ministry of DISinformation is so desperate to control the Internet: [...]

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]]> By: Faisal http://mahmood.tv/2006/08/03/another-attempt-at-big-brother-coming-up/comment-page-1/#comment-33523 Faisal Sun, 06 Aug 2006 04:13:17 +0000 http://mahmood.tv/?p=2660#comment-33523 Fucking morons taking the country years backwards.First we have mps calling for cutting the hands of thieves and now this ! What else is up who knows ? Fucking morons taking the country years backwards.First we have mps calling for cutting the hands of thieves and now this ! What else is up who knows ?

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]]> By: alfanan http://mahmood.tv/2006/08/03/another-attempt-at-big-brother-coming-up/comment-page-1/#comment-33455 alfanan Sat, 05 Aug 2006 09:15:34 +0000 http://mahmood.tv/?p=2660#comment-33455 This is ridiculous! I agree with most of you, they can try to block websites, put up fire walls, kidnap our children, and slaughter our pets…. But they can't take… OUR FREEDOM! This is just another attempt to take us back in time, instead of moving forward. Few years back, when the ban was lifted off of Bahrain's Internet, I thought to myself "What a smart move, whoever lifted the ban thought there was nothing to do to stop these people" Now, I'm wondering… What's next? Make a list every month of websites that you visit and submit it to the MO(d)I? Stupid, stupid, stupid….. Oh, and how do you expect to move forward with all the 'e-projects' that the country is purportedly ready to initiate if you're holding information back from the ppl, and showing off yourself as the Big Brother? How do you create a name that people can trust for your organization if your strategy is based on nothing but control? People need to trust your institute, and they need to know that you're trying to do the best for them. So far, this is NOT the case. This is ridiculous!

I agree with most of you, they can try to block websites, put up fire walls, kidnap our children, and slaughter our pets…. But they can’t take… OUR FREEDOM!

This is just another attempt to take us back in time, instead of moving forward. Few years back, when the ban was lifted off of Bahrain’s Internet, I thought to myself “What a smart move, whoever lifted the ban thought there was nothing to do to stop these people”

Now, I’m wondering… What’s next? Make a list every month of websites that you visit and submit it to the MO(d)I?

Stupid, stupid, stupid…..

Oh, and how do you expect to move forward with all the ‘e-projects’ that the country is purportedly ready to initiate if you’re holding information back from the ppl, and showing off yourself as the Big Brother? How do you create a name that people can trust for your organization if your strategy is based on nothing but control? People need to trust your institute, and they need to know that you’re trying to do the best for them. So far, this is NOT the case.

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]]> By: mahmood http://mahmood.tv/2006/08/03/another-attempt-at-big-brother-coming-up/comment-page-1/#comment-33453 mahmood Sat, 05 Aug 2006 08:53:44 +0000 http://mahmood.tv/?p=2660#comment-33453 Seef, thanks for the explanation, and it makes sense to fight them as clearly by your examination BIX is outside the law and their own constitution. The same would go for the TRA should it be part of the approval chain to ban Internet sites for the reasons that you mention. I would love to take the issue up, but I would rather leave that to someone else, the consumer protection society or some other person/organisation. I am really tired running around doing/managing/maintaining all of these "issues." I would be happy to lend a hand to who ever wants to take these issues up. Seef, thanks for the explanation, and it makes sense to fight them as clearly by your examination BIX is outside the law and their own constitution. The same would go for the TRA should it be part of the approval chain to ban Internet sites for the reasons that you mention.

I would love to take the issue up, but I would rather leave that to someone else, the consumer protection society or some other person/organisation. I am really tired running around doing/managing/maintaining all of these “issues.” I would be happy to lend a hand to who ever wants to take these issues up.

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]]> By: Seef http://mahmood.tv/2006/08/03/another-attempt-at-big-brother-coming-up/comment-page-1/#comment-33446 Seef Sat, 05 Aug 2006 06:50:34 +0000 http://mahmood.tv/?p=2660#comment-33446 Alright, technically ... here is the funny thing BIX is not the only way ISPs access the net. So if they forcefully start proxying the net ISPs can choose to go through Batelco or a Satellite or hell even start another exhange - I hear its not that hard anyway (I mean the Government was able to do it!) - Other than that it is a clear violation of the Telecommunications Law for the Bahrain Internet Exchange to and let me get a little legal on you guys ... Firstly Section 41-D states that BIX is binded by a Charter that is approved by the TRA which states that after the first Board leaves the ISPs use their membership status to form a General Assembley and vote for a new board. What has happened is that the Government mysteriously held onto a Government appointed board in clear violations of BIX's internal charter!!! This board mostly constitues Ministry of Transportation employees, and a few not ALL the ISPs if your wondering how that IS fair and non discriminatory well I think you can make a good case against it... OK NEXT, it is a clear violation of the to impede a telecommunications network or to create a anti-competitive environment. I would argue that BIX now with all its customers has dominance over International Bandwidth since new companies cannot aggregate on their own! Therefore, the fact that they will start proxying, slowing down etc... is against the law. Secondly, the Minister of Information can only list specific websites that he can ban (legally speaking) what is BIX intending on doing?! Creating an online banning system??? It looks like we are going to be banning much more than porn ... In the end of the day, we'll have a complete mess...and the thing that frustrates me the most is that it is ILLEGAL!!!! Mahmood, your our TRA contact guy why don't you do something we'll all support you! ... We need to talk to BIX figure out what their illegal board is upto... and contact the TRA all you need to do is look at Bix.bh for their charter, and the TRA's site for the law!! ... Now if I can only get my hands on BIX's license .... Alright, technically … here is the funny thing BIX is not the only way ISPs access the net. So if they forcefully start proxying the net ISPs can choose to go through Batelco or a Satellite or hell even start another exhange – I hear its not that hard anyway (I mean the Government was able to do it!) – Other than that it is a clear violation of the Telecommunications Law for the Bahrain Internet Exchange to and let me get a little legal on you guys …
Firstly Section 41-D states that BIX is binded by a Charter that is approved by the TRA which states that after the first Board leaves the ISPs use their membership status to form a General Assembley and vote for a new board. What has happened is that the Government mysteriously held onto a Government appointed board in clear violations of BIX’s internal charter!!! This board mostly constitues Ministry of Transportation employees, and a few not ALL the ISPs if your wondering how that IS fair and non discriminatory well I think you can make a good case against it…

OK NEXT, it is a clear violation of the to impede a telecommunications network or to create a anti-competitive environment. I would argue that BIX now with all its customers has dominance over International Bandwidth since new companies cannot aggregate on their own! Therefore, the fact that they will start proxying, slowing down etc… is against the law. Secondly, the Minister of Information can only list specific websites that he can ban (legally speaking) what is BIX intending on doing?! Creating an online banning system??? It looks like we are going to be banning much more than porn … In the end of the day, we’ll have a complete mess…and the thing that frustrates me the most is that it is ILLEGAL!!!! Mahmood, your our TRA contact guy why don’t you do something we’ll all support you! … We need to talk to BIX figure out what their illegal board is upto… and contact the TRA all you need to do is look at Bix.bh for their charter, and the TRA’s site for the law!! … Now if I can only get my hands on BIX’s license ….

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]]> By: Boilerman http://mahmood.tv/2006/08/03/another-attempt-at-big-brother-coming-up/comment-page-1/#comment-33375 Boilerman Fri, 04 Aug 2006 20:22:08 +0000 http://mahmood.tv/?p=2660#comment-33375 Oops: boilerhero.blogspot.com :) Oops: boilerhero.blogspot.com :)

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]]> By: Boilerman http://mahmood.tv/2006/08/03/another-attempt-at-big-brother-coming-up/comment-page-1/#comment-33358 Boilerman Fri, 04 Aug 2006 17:25:36 +0000 http://mahmood.tv/?p=2660#comment-33358 True. There's always a way to circumvent proxies (from public proxies to php page forwarding scripts.) Besides, will these proxies apply to Satnet and other such services whose exchange is not BIX? H. PS. Visit boilerhero.blogger.com now! :O) True. There’s always a way to circumvent proxies (from public proxies to php page forwarding scripts.) Besides, will these proxies apply to Satnet and other such services whose exchange is not BIX?

H.

PS. Visit boilerhero.blogger.com now! :O)

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]]> By: MooDY http://mahmood.tv/2006/08/03/another-attempt-at-big-brother-coming-up/comment-page-1/#comment-33342 MooDY Fri, 04 Aug 2006 15:18:54 +0000 http://mahmood.tv/?p=2660#comment-33342 Maybe we should just gather some hackers here and there and start attacking some important servers/services so they do not block any in return ! i can imagine help-bahrain.com ... pile of poos that is ... Maybe we should just gather some hackers here and there and start attacking some important servers/services so they do not block any in return !

i can imagine help-bahrain.com … pile of poos that is …

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]]> By: Ibn http://mahmood.tv/2006/08/03/another-attempt-at-big-brother-coming-up/comment-page-1/#comment-33341 Ibn Fri, 04 Aug 2006 15:18:34 +0000 http://mahmood.tv/?p=2660#comment-33341 <b>this should work as good as my dumb ass ameriki friends attempt at prohibition our outlawing booze in the roaring 20s. it will just creat a massive underground everything, </b> Absolutely right alfalfa - this has been shown time and time again. If a commodity is banned, you can garuantee an underground black market will develop. And since trades and transactions in a black market cannot be governed by lawfull contracts, the way to enforcement lies in pure force, and this is where criminals come in. They automatically generate not only a black market, but a <i>crime-ridden</i> black market. *sigh* -Ibn this should work as good as my dumb ass ameriki friends attempt at prohibition our outlawing booze in the roaring 20s. it will just creat a massive underground everything,

Absolutely right alfalfa – this has been shown time and time again. If a commodity is banned, you can garuantee an underground black market will develop. And since trades and transactions in a black market cannot be governed by lawfull contracts, the way to enforcement lies in pure force, and this is where criminals come in.

They automatically generate not only a black market, but a crime-ridden black market.

*sigh*

-Ibn

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]]> By: NomadicArab http://mahmood.tv/2006/08/03/another-attempt-at-big-brother-coming-up/comment-page-1/#comment-33310 NomadicArab Fri, 04 Aug 2006 12:07:17 +0000 http://mahmood.tv/?p=2660#comment-33310 hip hip horaaaaay!!!! hip hip horaaaaay!!!!

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