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1. you cannot be sheep and educated at the same time. contradiction.

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والله فلحنا!

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If someone needs to be paid so he can do good for this country, then I rest my case.

don’t put words in my mouth. i said WE are not being paid to SOLVE THOSE PROBLEMS. my job has different responsibilities which I fulfil, they do not include proposing solutions or legislation to sort out the problems of this economy. that is part of the job description of MPs, and part of THEIR campaign promises. if they don’t know how to do it, they shouldn’t be there.

I am contributing to the society by helping people and giving advices in some of the society problems and I do not need someone to pay me.

as far as i know, nobody asked you what you do. and you don’t know what i do. both are beside the point.

I shouldnt be argueing in this topic

then don’t

with someone who is bragging about his kids and mentioning how much they contributed to the society

i didn’t brag. i was defending our kids from your ignorant accusations and attacks.

while calling the kids of others “sheep”

i said: “they are learning to think for themselves not be told what to think like sheep”. I stand by that.

who do NOT have a lawyer like you to defend them

???!!!

you can figure out their contribution by their actions and any other social event, no matter what the event is.

since neither you nor i know what or who you are talking about, i can’t answer that. it’s all irrelevant.

For the record, those “sheep” are educated, decent and have their own time of enjoyment and they do not need to be taught how to be and live decent in this world.

1. you cannot be sheep and educated at the same time. contradiction.

2. everybody needs to learn how to be decent. if they didn’t, there would be no crime, no socially delinquent behaviour, nobody having thirty-five kids from four wives, no child abuse or neglect, no rape, no wife abuse, no theft, no government employees clocking in in the morning and going out for the day (effectively cheating and stealing from their country), no litter on the beaches, nobody driving with their kids in cars without a seat-belt or sitting on their laps while they drive, the list goes on.. i don’t know what your definition of decent is but it appears that it might be a lot less demanding than mine.

If the parliament is fulled with economists and other educated people then who would represent the conservative and Islamic community???

economists and other educated people come in all shapes and sizes. they are conservative, religious, or liberal, they have educations in international studies, business, law, education, sciences, arts, journalism, engineering and sociology. they can contribute in their own areas of expertise because at the end of the day, the bottom line is what’s best for the country’s economic future and the life of future generations. doesn’t the “conservative and islamic community” want jobs, don’t they want good opportunities for their kids? don’t they want a sustainable economy for future generations? or is their sole purpose to maintain archaic expired ideas for eternity at the expense of the country’s future?
when we have a strong economy everybody benefits, no matter what their religious affiliations.

Ok, so I assume the party you are talking about here is YOU and the gang = the only people in Bahrain who got talent and can address all the issues necessary to manage a country

don’t assume anything and don’t put words in my mouth.
1. there is no GANG
2. i didn’t run for parliament, so i am not accountable to you.
3. i am a registered voter, so i CAN hold parliament accountable and when they waste our money, i can say so. so can you.

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I am contributing to the society by helping people and giving advices in some of the society problems and I do not need someone to pay me.

Please don’t waste your breath mate, your advice is bad and is unneeded by even those who probably pretend to listen to you. So dinni fash y’sel laddy.

If the parliament is fulled with economists and other educated people then who would represent the conservative and Islamic community???

Those very people you scorn do look after the Islamists and conservatives much better than Islamists themselves would. The reason being is that the educated people and economists have a wider and more tolerant view of the world and understand that they represent all the people, rather than a little community who happen to pray behind them in their little mosques and their life and thoughts are blinkered with narrowly interpreted extremist versions of Islam.

So do Bahrain and your community a favour and keep your unneeded advice to yourself.

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If someone needs to be paid so he can do good for this country, then I rest my case.

I am contributing to the society by helping people and giving advices in some of the society problems and I do not need someone to pay me.

I shouldnt be argueing in this topic with someone who is bragging about his kids and mentioning how much they contributed to the society while calling the kids of others “sheep” who do NOT have a lawyer like you to defend them, you can figure out their contribution by their actions and any other social event, no matter what the event is.

For the record, those “sheep” are educated, decent and have their own time of enjoyment and they do not need to be taught how to be and live decent in this world.

that is why there should be economists and other educated people in parliament, not a collection of religious zealots the majority of whom who don’t know much about much else.

If the parliament is fulled with economists and other educated people then who would represent the conservative and Islamic community???

a party should have a program and a collection of talented people who can between them address all the issues necessary to manage a country, otherwise they really have no business running.

Ok, so I assume the party you are talking about here is YOU and the gang = the only people in Bahrain who got talent and can address all the issues necessary to mange a country

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And you think MPs have magic sticks to solve all of the problems you mentioned?

then why the H*** did they run for parliament?

I’ve been hearing this stuff you just mentioned for ages from every single person in Bahrain. All the people want to fix these problems no matter what point of view they represent and still neither one party/person manged to solve a single major problem.

but these people didn’t run for parliament. that’s the difference. that is why there should be economists and other educated people in parliament, not a collection of religious zealots the majority of whom who don’t know much about much else.
a party should have a program and a collection of talented people who can between them address all the issues necessary to manage a country, otherwise they really have no business running.

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Don’t throw these problems on the MPs. If you have a solution and your honour is so precious that it can’t be touched, then please try solving such issues from the outside. Don’t you represent the street and the citizens??

i wasn’t aware that mahmood or anyone else here was being paid by the government to solve these problems. i wasn’t aware that anybody here made campaign promises to solve these problems. i wasn’t aware that it is part of the job description of anyone here to solve these problems. ???!!

Why not begin with those people who work and get 250BDs only and have 10 children from one wife which happens to be pregnant once again?

wives don’t HAPPEN to be pregnant, where did you learn your biology?
the people you mention are exactly the kind of people that i personally have no sympathy for whatsoever. i am sick and tired of people whose biggest contribution to this country is to increase its population and then expect this country to take care of them, house them, provide them with education, medical care, social benefits, etc. when they can’t even be bothered to control their basic urges and do some planning. the rest of the world has moved on, get with the program..abstain or visit a pharmacy. it’s a lot cheaper than bringing up another kid. and stop whining..

Where are the youth of the Liberal community and why aren’t they active? Why do you find them hanging around in coffee shops or in parties or streets going around and round or in (….) only? where is their work to make the country a better place to live??

it is not OUR (the liberal community) youths that are loitering in the streets. why? where are your kids? our kids sometimes do useful things for the community but most of the time, they are living their age, playing, being kids, learning skills that will help them become responsible members of the community when they are adult, they are learning about other cultures so that they will be more tolerant and open-minded when they are adults, they are studying to get an education so they will not be ignorant and will not be leeches on society and will not have more kids than they can afford to, and will not enforce their dark and limited standards on everybody else, they are learning to think for themselves not be told what to think like sheep, they are learning to be decent citizens of the world.

when people get paid for being in parliament, that is when they become accountable to you AND US. until then, noone here is answerable or accountable to anybody.

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I’ve been hearing this stuff you just mentioned for ages from every single person in Bahrain. All the people want to fix these problems no matter what point of view they represent and still neither one party/person manged to solve a single major problem.

Don’t throw these problems on the MPs. If you have a solution and your honour is so precious that it can’t be touched, then please try solving such issues from the outside. Don’t you represent the street and the citizens?? Why not begin with those people who work and get 250BDs only and have 10 children from one wife which happens to be pregnant once again? Where are you from the idea that 50% of high school graduates stop learning after that stage. 45% of the rest stop after getting another higher degree!? Regarding the non-parliment parties, where are their plans, field work, their ideas and support to the Bahraini voter if they would believe they represent the Bahraini citizen? Where are the youth of the Liberal community and why aren’t they active? Why do you find them hanging around in coffee shops or in parties or streets going around and round or in (….) only? where is their work to make the country a better place to live??

I know I sound like the Anti-Liberal campaign which I used to hear during the last elections and I would like to assure you I am not one of them but I kept really wondering about the truth in all of this!

Let me ask you what is the solution you have in your mind? Dont tell me that the MPs should be discussing more important subjects (which is true by the way) but what do YOU have to offer for the community ?????????????????

Do you think electing someone like YOU will solve such issues?? there are dozens of barriers that are standing between any development, beginning from the government and passing by the extremist ideologies and the diversity of opinions. Not forgetting our bureaucracy system.

please if you think that the issue here is ONLY the elected MPs, then this discussion is a waste of time.. instead of picking on the honour of some one you barely know which happens that you don’t like, why don’t you give your own solution to the problems you just mentioned, build your stance with the help of your friends/party/whatever and enter the battle like a real Liberal party.

Unfortunately, what is happening right now is all part of the Liberals-media-war against Islamists. If liberals were really interested in solving the million problems you mentioned they would’ve come up with solutions and helped the other Parliment-Islamic parties (both pro and opp.) or even the government instead of blaming the current MPs for the lack of acheivments.

If it is about the “spring of culture” then Liberals made their point and so did the Islamists. Why continue attacking the MPs??? it’s not about freedom of expression no more, it’s all about the Liberals vs. Islamic MPs. you can’t see those who elected the MPs (conservative voters which are the majority) writing in the newspapers or in blogs attacking the MPs decision regarding the investigation committee.

The parliment is only 4-month old, we still have another 44 months left!
Save your breath.. the elections are still far away! And although their work is so weak right now I can see them winning 2010.

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