Bahraini Parliament frees Palestine!

21 Nov, '07

Shaikh Khalid bin Ahmed Al-Khalifa - Bahrain’s Foreign MinisterI couldn’t believe the stuff carried in the papers this morning about the palava in parliament yesterday. MPs are “absolutely” incensed that our foreign minister shook hands with the Israeli foreign minister on the sidelines of a meeting at the UN. That minister being female and and Israeli is a double whamy for them. I guess the Muslim Brotherhood MPs could possibly forgive him for shaking hands with an Israeli, but an Israeli woman is a no no.

One chooses to label other human beings as low as dogs while the other calls parliamentarians as hypocritical killers

Anyway, the foreign minister was upfront about it and explained the country’s position when the story broke and the newspapers had their pound of flesh. Now it’s the MP’s turn to have theirs. Who’s been trusted with this task; however? Well it’s the plagiarist of course! He’s heading the “Boycott Israel” camp in parliament and wants his few minutes in the limelight. Well he’s got it with a bang. But he obviously didn’t bank on being mauled by the minister in the process… so from “demanding” that the minister washes his hands 7 times, one of which with sand – a reference to cleansing oneself from touching the muzzle of a dog, an unclean part according to Islam, and a reference to Jews being unclean as far as he’s concerned, he’s now saying that he just suggested it so that Shaikh Khalid purifies himself after touching the “dirty” (Jewess) Livni.

Brilliant isn’t it? We should set up a stall at the entrance of the parliament chambers and sell palm-sized rocks or at least some pebbles to increase the fun. This is Politics 101 Bahraini style!

he just suggested it so that Shaikh Khalid purifies himself after touching the “dirty” (Jewess) Livni.

One chooses to label other human beings as low as dogs and as unclean as his persuasion makes him believe, while the other calls parliamentarians as hypocritical killers – in reference probably to Hamas too being of the Muslim Brotherhood persuasion and that they are terrorists I presume; hence his outburst of “the blood of Palestinians are on your hands” – but the jury’s still out until he explains the comments thrown.

The end result? Well, Palestine is still occupied, Israel continues to exist while some Bahrainis still sleep with hunger pangs, live in houses some of which have been categorised as condemned, thousands are still without jobs, various reforms are stagnant, and freedom robbing laws are still in existence and parliament ignores all of that and passes a resolution to sever all links with the Jewish Enemy.

Here I am thinking that one has to keep lines of communications open with even an enemy in order to reach an amicable solution.

The end result? Well, Palestine is still occupied, Israel continues to exist while some Bahrainis still sleep with hunger pangs

Keeping that in mind, I honestly do not see the problem in our foreign minister meeting with the Israelis at an international location on the sidelines of an international conference especially as the meeting was not solely bilateral but included 8 other Arab countries. I could even excuse him for meeting “the enemy” in bilateral talks if the result of that meeting was some good coming to Palestine and Bahrain, especially when the Palestinian leadership themselves know about this meeting and have condoned it.

Demanding – as the parliament has done by passing a resolution to the effect – never to have any contact in whatsoever form with Israel is nonsensical and impractical. This is politics after all and a country must look after its own interests first and foremost and use its influence to bring points of view closer, even between enemies.

It’s a very emotive issue. Of course it is. But parliament and senior politicians should never allow themselves to be dragged into situations like this. This shakes the country’s confidence in the organisations they represent even more than the level they enjoy at the moment. At the very best, this outburst from both sides will busy the whole country for days on end needlessly and shove the important issues they should be discussing to the back of the queue, once again.

This is a government and a parliament with grasshopper attention span. Let’s see what the following few days will hold for us. Big smiles and hugs probably while the cauldron of emotions continue to bubble and each waiting for the other to slip.

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  1. Ibn says:

    Mahmood,

    and a reference to Jews being unclean as far as he’s concerned, he’s now saying that he just suggested it so that Shaikh Khalid purifies himself after touching the “dirty” (Jewess) Livni.

    To the extent that he is calling on the foreign minister to wash his hands of her because she happens to be Jewish, then that is absolutely pathetic and despicable.
    Typical racist Islamist reaction.

    But she also happens to be the foreign minister of Israel, not the most un-controversial of countries.

    Demanding – as the parliament has done by passing a resolution to the effect – never to have any contact in whatsoever form with Israel is nonsensical and impractical. This is politics after all and a country must look after its own interests first and foremost and use its influence to bring points of view closer, even between enemies.

    Well thats true, as they say, keep your friends close and your enemies closer.

    On the other hand, once a country has been identified as illegitimate and far from moral, what business do people have sanctioning it, whether symbolically as in with a handshake, or practically as with money? Especially MPs of parliaments.

    I believe that the solution here is half way between – Israel is illegitimate and racist, but they are there nonetheless. Thus, any engagement that is to be done, must be done towards its strategic and/or tactical weakening.

    That being said, I can respect someone who does call for an all out hands-off approach. Once we identify a criminal, we dont sanction him whatsoever.

    -Ibn

  2. Aliandra says:

    On the other hand, once a country has been identified as illegitimate and far from moral, what business do people have sanctioning it, whether symbolically as in with a handshake

    Because the world is full of such countries and politics dictates that we deal with them, which does not imply approval.

  3. sara says:

    Who is this guy to label anyone “unclean” while he himself maintains a weight of about 200+ kgs while the people he is “fighting” for are starving to death?!? Pathetic!

  4. Salman says:

    How come we don’t get a video of this taking place?

  5. doncox says:

    “Palestine is still occupied”____Well, except for the Gaza strip. Also, it is incorrect to call Israel an “illegitimate” country, as it is fully recognised as a state by the UN. (Unlike Taiwan.)______I can never understand why calling somebody a dog is supposed to be such a big insult. Dogs are rather nice, friendly animals.

  6. Ibn says:

    Also, it is incorrect to call Israel an “illegitimate” country, as it is fully recognised as a state by the UN.

    Yes, because we all know that when the UN speaks, God speaks.

    -Ibn

  7. Actually Israel is the only existing country whose existence is contemplated by a UN resolution.

    In any case, most of Palestine is still occupied – by Jordan, that is. Or has somebody here forgotten what black November was?

    I’m with you Mahmood – and I don’t think that considering Israel an enemy is right or helps. After all what they have done is to go where the UN told them to. The rest is an Arab-made disaster.

  8. I says:

    Keeping dialog open with your enemies is by far the most prudent of practices. Even at the height of the cold war Russia and the US had the ‘hotline’ a means of communication.
    Much more has been achieved by dialog rather than reaction or violence. Just look at Northern Ireland. That was eventually solved by both sides talking. Initially it was unofficial, then it gradually, very very gradually, became official, ending in a cessation of violence and the current calm.

  9. m.noor says:

    For crying out loud; who cares what the MPs say? Who cares if they even exist ❓
    This show (masr7eyeh… lmao :mrgreen: ) has been fully understood from its 1st – disappointing 😳 – life cycle.

    Mahmood-Bey, please don’t follow their sessions 💡 ; or at least don’t draw any attention to them by uncovering their nonsense. I wish if you’d explain to me why would you nevertheless 🙄 .
    They’ll think now that we are closely observing their child’s play and that we actually believe they can change something 😎 .

    Some of them were fooled into that, and the others were in it maybe for something else like money, fame, or immunity 😈 .

    MPs are useless, helpless, and some of them are – as appears from the thread – 😯 shameless… LoL :mrgreen:

  10. newcastle says:

    he shaked an israeli womans hand,,, big deal

  11. m.noor says:

    He didnt shake her hand on a personal level; otherwise it wouldn’t matter.
    MPs are angry because it was a political hand shake since he represents KoB.

  12. Abu Arron says:

    Putting aside the rights and wrongs of this feverish posturing, I would recommend that the Foreign Minister quote “Keep your friends close, but your enemies closer still”.

    D’ya think such a justification might calm the troubled waters?

  13. Abbas says:

    Such plays are nothing but to absorb the public anger of how unilateral the government is. The parliament has no muscles to punch and no teeth to bite…

    No matter what you say, the zionists are not welcome. As we were agaisnt the racist South Africa’s apartheid regime, even though the US stood by it, we will continue to oppose the zionism.
    When Isreal treats the arabs, regardless of their faith as humans and give them their right to live, we will change.

  14. Abbas says:

    By the way, the relationship between the government and the Zionists is not new, we all remember the Prince meeting with the forign minster of the Israel.

    I guess the ruling family and the zionist regime share one thing… Racism & Discrimination.

  15. Barry says:

    I find it funny that racism is being thrown around here when both Jews and Arabs are Semitic peoples anyway.

    In the eyes of a Aryan Brotherhood member, both Arabs and Jews are the same anyway. So let’s call it what it really is: Opression, bigotry and prejudice.

  16. Ibn says:

    In the eyes of a Aryan Brotherhood member, both Arabs and Jews are the same anyway.

    Barry, the aryan brotherhood sees blacks, asians, hispanics, jews, arabs, etc as the same.

    Does this mean that if blacks discriminate against asians that isnt racism?

    The same goes for Jews and Arabs. Even though they might have come from common roots, (we all came from Africa if you go back far enough), that doesnt mean that there is no racism there. Its a step up from bigorty and prejudice, and its also institutionalized.

    -Ibn

  17. Well, here’s another approach to consider:

    Stop thinking of anyone from another religion as an enemy. That kind of hate has brought the Muslim world to the rear of the parade of progress of other civilizations. The idea that you have to kill non-Muslims has earned you the reputation of murderers and terrorists, has made you international pariahs, and makes you the objects of suspicion when you tread the civilized world.

    Pouring your energy into this hate will lead you to catastrophe because all your religious enemies are more competent than you, largely because they do not bear the handicap of Islam. Focus on building your own country up instead of tearing down the countries of your religious enemies.

    Imitate Israel rather than hate it. Israel is one of the few democracies in the Middle East. Why not try giving the Arab Muslims in your own Arab Muslim countries the same individual liberties and right to vote that Arab Muslims have in Israel? When you’re finished with that, you can work on property rights and creating a business climate where small businesses can flourish, like Israel. There’s more, but that should keep you busy for now.

  18. Abu Arron says:

    Interesting generalised sweeping statements you’ve made there Steve.

    There’s some validity in the statement regarding other religions being considered as enemies, but that mindset can/should be attributed to the lunatic fringe. Unfortunately, it’s the lunatic fringe that make the headlines. Since when has any newspaper used the front cover story “Muslim family live in peace and tolerance towards others”?

    Regarding Israel, the problem is not with the Jews – but the Israelies. The Arab view is that the Israelies took the land from the Palestians and until that issue is resolved there will continue to be animosity. The Brits occupied America until they were forcibly thrown out.

    Democracy in the Middle East? I’m not going to hold my breath. In addition to conflicting with the personal agendas (wealth) of various royal families, there’s also factions of the Muslim population who believe that democracy goes against the Muslim faith.

    There’s more, but that should keep you busy for now.

    I wouldn’t be at all surprised.

  19. Moclippa says:

    I’m sorry, I may have missed this… at what point did they remove the parliamentarian for promoting hate speech against Jewish people? Last I remember they were still an important (albeit small) part of our community.

    This racist needs to at least have a class action law suit levied against him by members of the Jewish community, if he is not kicked out… We have a good opportunity to curb this sort of behavior in the future now, and the groups who suffer most from this sort of speech, as well as any individuals who hold themselves as egalitarian or feel they are subject to discrimination, need to stand against it.

  20. um naief says:

    this is so ridiculous! when there are so many other things of greater importance… ppl are acting like this over someone shaking hands w/ a Jewish woman!

    i really don’t think it’ll ever change around here.

  21. Andrew Brehm says:

    Regarding Israel, the problem is not with the Jews – but the Israelies. The Arab view is that the Israelies took the land from the Palestians and until that issue is resolved there will continue to be animosity.

    Most Israelis are Jews. And somehow, when Arab countries attack and Arab radio stations announce the expected death of all Jews, as has repeatedly happened, Israeli Jews tend not to believe that their “taking land” is the problem.

    After all, Arabs tried to murder Jews before Israel even existed. And Arab countries expelled and hunted down Jews that were not Israelis until they fled there.

    So perhaps the problem is not with “taking land” but with life?

    What can the Jews do to stop Arabs from trying to kill them? They tried not having a state and having a state. Both results were the same. They tried living in Israel and not living in Israel. Both results were the same. They tried fighting back and making peace. Both results were the same.

    Israel is a controversial country, that is correct. But for some reason it is more controversial than Sudan (300,000 dead) in the Arab world…

    I cannot believe that the problem is not “with the Jews”. Arabs hunted them down in Arab countries, took their land, made them flee to Israel (one million, originally). So how can the problem be with Israel rather than the Jews?

    The way I see it the problem is either with the Jews, or the Arabs, not with Israel.

    The Grand Mufti of Jerusalem has called for the extermination of the Jews before Israel existed.

    The Arab countries attacked Israel before any Palestinian Arabs ever left the new country.

    The Arab countries rejected the offer of land for peace after the 6 day war and now claim that Israel is illegally occupying “Palestine”, a country that has never ever existed.

    The Arab countries expelled a million Jews and complain about Arab refugees from Israel, whom they have never treated in the same way as Israel treated the Jewish refugees.

    So how can the problem be the Israelis? Half of them are simply the descendants of Jewish refugees from Arab countries.

    (I wonder… given that Arab countries reserve for themselves the right to attack Israel because Israel took Arab land, would Israel have the right to attack Arab countries because the Arab countries took Jewish land when the Jews were expelled?)

    But one thing I really wonder about is Muslim obsession with “Palestine” and the idea that Jews must not live there. (And please don’t tell me that Muslims don’t have a problem with Jews living in Palestine. Arabs had a problem with Jews living in other Arab countries, why would it be different in Palestine?)

    The Quran speaks of the land Israel, it tells us the story of how G-d gave that land to the people of Israel, who were supposed to settle there and not turn back. The people of Israel are doing exactly that, as we can see. What are good Muslims do to assist the prophecy?

    The word “Palestine” was a Roman (pagan) invention for the land of Israel. The idea was to rename the country in order to erase its connection with G-d. Why are Muslims today so fond of the word “Palestine”, which is not in the Quran, and which was simply a word made up to insult G-d? Shouldn’t Muslims submit to G-d’s will rather than aid His enemies?

    I am being serious. When the Quran says that the land belongs to the Jews and the pagan Roman empire named it “Palestine” to insult the Jews, how can any good Muslim deny that the land belongs to the Jews and call it “Palestine” rather than “Israel”?

    That the land is Jewish is a millenia old belief present in all heavenly religios. Judaism believes it, Christianity believes it, Zoroastrianism believes it (that’s why the Persian empire helped rebuild Israel after the first exile), Muhammed believed it! Why do today’s Muslims not believe it? Who was the next prophet who told humanity that G-d’s decision had changed and that the land was now Arab?

    Muhammed said that the Muslims have their religion and the Jews have theirs.

    And the only reason he ever went to Jerusalem was because it was the location of the temple of Allah.

    Why modern Muslims do not follow the example of their prophet, I do not know. Although I know some Muslims whose faith is stronger than their nationalism and sense of superiority over the Jews.

    Nevertheless, Israel is not the problem. Jews were attacked in “Palestine” and other Arab countries before and after Israel was founded. If Israel is the problem, it would be a problem for the past and future. And the end of the second exile is part of prophecy, isn’t it? The Jews were meant to return before the end of days. Well, they did. Now it’s up to Muslims to deal with the fact that their prophet was right.

    You can accept Muhammed’s words and accept that Israel was given to the Jews by Allah. Or you can follow the secular Arab nationalists and reject prophecy and fight the Jews and blame them for all evils, regardless of whether those evils happened before or after or independent of Israel’s existence.

    The very least you could do is treat Palestinian Arabs as Arabs, like Israel is treating Arab Jews as Jews. Don’t let them rot in camps, make them citizens. They are valuable people. Or could be.

    But you cannot expect the Jews to trust them. They joined the Arab attack on the Jews after Israel was founded. How can Jews trust them not do so again, especially since they always helped Arab attacks since.

    Islam is a religion of peace. Practice it.

    (The Zionists bought the land they settled on, before Israel was founded. And land taken in a defensive war is the victor’s. Even when the victor is a Jew.)

  22. Andrew Brehm says:

    “until that issue is resolved there will continue to be animosity.”

    The issue was resolved before the first Arab attack. The Jews settled only on the land they bought. Then they were attacked, by Arab states and their immediate neighbours in “Palestine”.

    The issue IS resolved. It is NOT Arab land. The Arabs lost it, in a war. That happens. Issue resolved.

    I was born in Germany. We started a war. We lost. We lost land. Issue resolved.

    You don’t see me blowing up Polish kindergardens or refuse to shake hands with a Pole because of a refugee issue of 60 years ago.

    Who cares about the refugees? The world didn’t care about the Jewish refugees from Arab countries. And the Arab world doesn’t care about the Arab refugees (instead the west pays for them).

    Just make the descendants of those “refugees” citizens. Problem solved. What’s the matter with you people?

    It worked for Israel with the Jewish refugees from the Arab world. Why do you think it cannot work with Arabs?

    “Of the 62,000 Arabs who formerly lived in Haifa not more than 5,000 or 6,000 remained. Various factors influenced their decision to seek safety in flight. There is but little doubt that the most potent of the factors were the announcements made over the air by the -Higher Arab Executive, urging the Arabs to quit.. . . It was clearly intimated that those Arabs who remained in Haifa and accepted Jewish protection would be regarded as renegades.”

    – The London weekly Economist, October 2, 1948

    Perhaps the Economist is lying. Did the Arab governments or did they not urge the Arabs to leave Israel?

    If you find the answer to that, you will find the answer to who caused the refugee problem.

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