It’s interesting. I have vague memories of reading exerpts from a diary from the President Ford administration. I cannot remember whose diary it was. Apparently Operation Ajax was getting nowhere until they got the support of the Mullah network in Iran. They got this support once Ayatollah Kashani turned against the secularist Mossadeq. Once the go-ahead came, Operation Ajax was workable. So the Mullahs got rid of someone who didn’t fit into their power structure and America paid for it all. The same thing appears to be happening again, although this time Ahmadinejad is as popular, if not more popular, than the big religious heads of Iran, who are seen as being corrupt and out of touch despite their aura of religious power. So it’s not easy to see what will happen. Not for me anyway.

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As to my translation, this is my interpretation which is largely shared by most of the news channels I watched who all concluded that his speech was a clear threat to use violence which has been heeded by his militias.

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I don’t know much about Iranian politics either, and I don’t know if what happened in the ballot boxes. Those elections could have been fraudulent or maybe not, I haven’t seen any “proof” for either side of the story. However, I fail to understand what you’re implying in the paragraph above. Are you saying that because these elections are in the Middle East, therefore that is a reason enough to think they are fraudulent?

There are things that are fundamentally wrong with the regime in Iran, but I think everyone is confusing that with the “results of the elections”. The ruling by religion is one amongst many, but that itself does not support nor oppose the argument of elections being fraud. They are two separate things.

I read the English summary of the sermon you wrote, and I listened to the sermon with Arabic subtitles as well, and the two don’t resonate well. It could be your sarcasm but I think you at least got the tone wrong. It seemed more of like an emotional appeal to people, rather than a statement of threat. Not that this is great, either, but I think it’s what it seemed he was doing.

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I kinda sorta agreed with your first post, but your second is a little disingenuously sarcastic. If I’m not mistaken, you are expressing a strong belief that the US has nothing to do with the protests in Iran. According to our own Western newspapers, what you’re saying is highly unlikely:

On May 23, 2007, Brian Ross and Richard Esposito reported on ABC News: “The CIA has received secret presidential approval to mount a covert “black” operation to destabilize the Iranian government, current and former officials in the intelligence community tell ABC News.”

On May 27, 2007, the London Telegraph reported that “Mr. Bush has signed an official document endorsing CIA plans for a propaganda and disinformation campaign intended to destabilize, and eventually topple, the theocratic rule of the mullahs.”

On June 29, 2008, Seymour Hersh, the man who broke the Mai Lai and Abu Ghraib scandals, reported in the New Yorker: “Late last year, Congress agreed to a request from President Bush to fund a major escalation of covert operations against Iran, according to current and former military, intelligence, and congressional sources. These operations, for which the President sought up to four hundred million dollars, were described in a Presidential Finding signed by Bush, and are designed to destabilize the country’s religious leadership.”

This is all part of a pattern of behaviour that goes back through the 20th Century, most notably expressed in 1953, with CIA’s Operation Ajax and the unseating of Dr. Soroush Mossadeq. In that operation, as they are doing today, they sought – and received – help from the mullahs in Iran.

I agree that many militant Muslims are all too quick to see the “kaffir under the bed”, but you cannot say that America and Iran are somehow hermetically sealed from one another and that America has never stuck its nose in Iran’s business.

Disclaimer: Iranians cannot deny sticking their noses in either. Their commitment to “exporting the revolution” is a matter of record.

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Looks like you were too smart for us American Jackals, Robok. You figured it out. You caught us. It was Americans who ordered a hundred thousand Iranians onto the street with our secret radio transmitters. It was us who ordered the Basiji to beat protestors to death. I’m pretty sure it was Obama who ordered the Basiji to shoot into the crowds, because, as everyone knows, it couldn’t possibly be the Basiji to blame, those lovable lugs. As every Muslim knows, when Muslims start butchering their own people, somebody else is to blame. If not the Jews, then the Americans. I surrender to your brilliant analysis.

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