One that is MUCH more odious than the plot and discord in Bassam Al-Thawadi’s movie. This one, is also infinitely more dangerous and if no stop is put to it, this country should have a “flush now” lever attached to it, because that is where we are headed.
Over the last few days, 15 prospective candidates gave up the fight and hung their swords. Some I am sure discovered that there was now way for them to compete in the fray and they did good by cutting their losses early and bailing out, others just entered the elections in the first place to probably just get the “key money” they would be offered to get out of the way, while others have been pushed, harassed, cajoled to do so by various “non”-political sources, at least, that’s what they want to call themselves and we know that they are anything but.
So what’s happened then? The religious clerics put the kabbash on some candidates to get out of the way in favour of other turbans or beards! How about that for a good party trick? How do they do it? Well, think of the nod that a mafia boss does in those movies and you probably will get the picture.
Once that signal is given, the “apparatus” goes into overdrive: mosque preachers bleat the virtues of the selected one, while nefariously besmirches the opposition. So they bray out things like: “Only elect the believers!”
Of course, as they alone hold the exclusive keys to Heaven, it is only their sanctioned form of believers who are meant by this; why don’t you give us a CPR number and name why don’t you? Anyway, the content of the message of course is to tell people that the marked person is a non-believer! They have summarily excommunicated him politically, and of course their followers, being the true sheep they are, would just acquiesce to their demands unquestioningly. Ma’atems (on the other side of the spectrum) are just as bad using the same tactic more or less, and the result? Good people who have proven their mettle and who actually did attempt make a difference in the last parliament are chased out of the loop!
Now is this legal? Ah, who gives a damn? When the people who have ALLEGEDLY paid good money to incumbent candidates and ALLEGEDLY have also paid for tents and chairs and ALLEGEDLY put members of parliament on a stipend for services rendered and to be rendered and ALLEGEDLY paid even members of the appointed Shura council for hand written reports and recommendations are all still in their cushy government enclaves, untouched and unmolested! (did I forget an ALLEGEDLY anywhere in this paragraph? Please put it where it should go would ya?)
Look at all the papers over the last couple of weeks, and today’s in particular, we see two more candidates specifically giving up seats for turbans. I called one of them (Jassim Abdul’aal) and viciously complained that he is doing away with the trust placed on him by the whole of Bahrain if he does in fact give up the fight. He complained that there is really no point as regardless of his good history in the last parliament and within his community, a turban will always be selected over and above him.
And there goes the liberal stream in the 2006 parliament… I just hope that we will get at least a couple in there to shout loud enough to be heard above the din and shouts of “Allahu Akbar” the various Ayatollahs and Binladens would utter unbidden between brainfarts, because this is what the forthcoming chamber is looking like at the moment.
If you guys have any influence on liberals, please do write to them and/or talk to them to convince them to stand their ground. Bahrain desperately needs them. It doesn’t really need too many turbans and beards in there… what the hell will they do all day in parliament, take various breaks for prayer, even further restrict our personal freedoms and our freedoms of speech because they interpret those as against their version or Islam?
And may Allah have mercy on our souls. But before he does, let’s kick the liberals’ joint ass to elevate their game by at least staying in the running for Bahrain’s sake!
My vote, as if you needed told, would most definitely go to Wa’ad (sorry, can’t provide a link, their site is still blocked) or the new National Unity group.
Al-Wefaq and the others need not bother knock on my door.
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Candidates gave up their rights to obey to Isa Qassim and Abdulla Al- Guraifi recent “ orders†to ease the competition on Al-Wefaq candidates. Here is my message that I want to send to Qassim:
لماذا هذه القيمومة على رقاب الناس يا هذا. لماذا لا تترك الناس ينتخبوا ما يشاءون, انك بذلك تنتقص منÙÂهمهم وتقييمهم . كأنك تقول أيها البعض : أيها الناس انتم لا تعرÙÂوا ما يبطنه لكم هؤلاء المستقلينمنخير أو شر , أنا اعلم بهم , وعليه صوتوا للكتلة المؤمنة التيتأتمر بأوامريوتنتهيبنواهي. عيسى قاسم يدرك تماما سذاجة الجماهير وتخلÙÂهم ØŒ ولقد قام بكل بذاءة وخسة باستغلال زعامته لهم بأنيمارس اÙÂتضاØÂÙ‡ ليكش٠عنعورته وعورات هذه الجماهير التيتنعق وراء كل ناعق.
وكي٠تلوؠيا عيسى قاسم انك ستستخدم سلاؠالانسØÂاب منالآن. إذا كانت هيبالÙÂعل نقطة قوة ÙÂÙŠØÂال ÙÂوز كتلتك ØŒ أليس منالغباء أنتكش٠عننقاط قوتك منالآن.
وإذا لم تكنمع المقاطعة ÙÂيعام 2002 لماذا لم تبينموقÙÂÙƒ بكل وضوؠوتجأر بصوتك كما تÙÂعل الآنأنك مع المشاركة ØÂتى لو أغضبت الجماهير. لم تÙÂعل ذلك لأنك لم تشأ أنتخسر زعامتك لعلمك جيدا أنهذه الجماهير همج رعاع يبØÂثوا عنزعيم بمقاييسهم .
وما الذيأقØÂمك أساسا ÙÂيالسياسة ØŒ ما هيمؤهلاك وانجازاتك وخبراتك ÙÂيالØÂقل السياسيوالاقتصاديØÂتى تنظر للدولة ومؤسساتها. أنت مجرد (سكول دروبر) اØÂتضنتك الØÂوزة مثلما تØÂتضنالمتخلÙÂينالآخرينتبصق ÙÂيعقولكم كل بذاءات التاريخ والتراث وترسل بكم إلى قم تعودونبعدها إلينا تنظروا ÙÂيالسياسة والاقتصاد والاجتماع والقانونوالعلاقات الخارجية .
لا يوجد كتاب واØÂد ÙÂيالØÂوزة يعلم السياسة والاقتصاد ( باستثناء كتاب الصدر) والقانونوالعلاقات الدولية . ÙÂكي٠تأتيلكم كل هذا العلم ” الØÂصولي” لتقØÂموا أنÙÂسكم ÙÂيكل شؤونالدولة. أينأبØÂاثك يا هذا ÙÂيالØÂقول أعلاه لتقنعنيانك أهل للتصد لهذه الشؤون.
لقد أدركت تماما أنهذه الجماهير مطية يسهل ركوبها وانه لا يسألك اØÂد لماذا وكي٠تدعيالزعامة وما هيمؤهلاتك. تدرك انه لنيØÂاسبك اØÂد على ما تقذÙÂÙ‡ ÙÂيعقول الجماهير ولنيسألك اØÂد عنملائمتك للمنبر الذيالتي“تمتطيه” لأنه لا توجد معايير أساسا لمنيريد أن“يمتطي” منبرا.
صراØÂØ©ØŒ
عبد العال منصوبنا، مو منالديرة بس صوبنا
وكنت Ù…ÙÂكر أعلق صورة كبيرة إليه على البيت
خصة بيتنا موقعه ØÂليو
بس يوم جÙÂته يوم يقول بانسØÂب
ويوم بعد رجع قال ما بنسØÂب
قلت خله، Ø£ØÂØ· صورة وش قد وبعدينينسØÂب
ØÂÙ‚ أصير مطنزة ويا الربع
خلنا Ù†ØÂارس بالأخير نجو٠منهو وعندها بنØÂدد عنالÙÂشيلة
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صج وقـــــــاØÂØ©
يا اخيليش الØÂسد.. هايإنتخابات وقول على المايكروÙÂونالليتبغا تقوله.. مو كل الناس متدينينبس بعد مو كل الناس مو متدينيÙâ€
وثانيا أنا إنسانمتدين، أستمع الى خطب عيسى قاسم، Ø£ÙÂهم مقصده، وأبديوجهة نظريمع يتبع شوره ØÂتى ولو كانمنناØÂية إنتقاد أو تØÂÙÂظ دونكلام ÙÂيه تجريؠوإهانة مشاعر الآخريÙâ€
ثالثا الإنتخابات هاذيالسنة انتخابات كتل = كتل المعارضة والدليل مثال ما ÙŠØÂدث ÙÂيالدائرة الرابعة مع منيرة ÙÂخرو ØÂيث الوÙÂاقيينسيبدوندعمهم لمنيرة ÙÂيالانتخابات القادمة وهو نوع منالتØÂالÙÂ.. يعنيما يهم ÙˆÙÂاق ولا وعد إذا كانالموضوع ÙÂيه تØÂقيق لمطالب الشعب..
أنا إنسانلا اتبع الى جمعية معينة.. أنا مع منيطالب بØÂقوقيلكنبعد ما رأيت منإسلوب ØÂوار هنا، أتمنى أنينØÂÙ„ التØÂال٠بينالوÙÂاق ووعد لنرى كي٠سنرى سينجؠ(الوعديين) والليخاي٠لا ينزل انتخابات
والليما عنده إسلوب ÙÂيالكلام لا يكتب..
وعموما
أنت ايضا (سكول دروبر) اØÂتضنتك البØÂرينكما تØÂتضنالمتخلÙÂينالآخريÙâ€
عجل آخرتها نـــطلع متخلــــــÙÂين؟؟ وإنت الليÙÂاهم..
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صج وقاØÂØ© المشكلة قاعد اقرأ وأرد أقرأ مرة أخرى
يعنياØÂنا رعاع وانت ÙÂاهم..
خلنياذكرك انه الليقاطع تØÂال٠جمعيات سياسية كبير وتم اتخاذ القرار بعد التوصل الى مباØÂثات بينالجمعيات ببعضها الآخر..
هل سمعت الخطبة كاملة؟؟
الإنسØÂاب سيتم إذا الØÂكومة لم تستجيب للتكتل الموجود ÙÂيالبرلمانودعنيأخبرك أنالمقاطعينالسابقينمنالجمعيات الأربع سيØÂذو بمثل هذا الØÂذو ØÂتى لو اضطر الأمر Ù„ØÂÙ„ البرلمان..
أنا صØÂيؠلا أتبع تيار عيسى قاسم.. بس بصراØÂØ© ÙŠØÂز بنÙÂسيإنه يتم تشبيه الشعب برعاع ومصطلØÂات بذيئة تنم مناسلوب رخيص مثل أمثالك الØÂاقدين..
أعتقد إنك ستغضب بمصطلؠآية الله، إذندعنيأخبرك أنسماØÂØ© العلامة آية الله عيسى قاسم (وأنا أتØÂداك) لم يقول ÙÂيأيخطبة، إنتخبوا ÙÂلانواتركوا ÙÂلان..
الشعب عنده عقل ويÙÂكر.. ويعر٠ماهو صؠوما هو غلط.. يعنيبالله لو يجيشيخ معمم ويدخل البرلمانويØÂصل ÙÂلوس على الÙÂاضيوالشعب جايع بتتوقع إنه ÙÂيأØÂد بينتخبه؟؟؟ بس لأنه معمم يعنيوقال الدينهو اللييقول لكم إختاروني؟؟؟!!
أو بس لأنه جمعية الوÙÂاق جمعية إسلامية تتÙÂننبمهاجمتها؟؟؟ إنت أنظر إلى ÙÂكر الشيخ عليسلمانوخطاباته وهو المتخرج من“الØÂوزة” على قولتك وشو٠خطبته ÙÂياÙÂتتاؠخيمة منيرة ÙÂخرو علشانتعر٠شويمنهالÙÂكر..
إذا إنت إنسانجاهل ومصطلØÂاتك رخيصة أرجو أنتØÂتÙÂظ بها إلى Ù†ÙÂسك.. وخلنيساكت
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الشعب صار مطية سهلة؟؟
إنت بالله ÙÂيأيدائرة مرشؠنÙÂسك علشانأقول للعالم لا تصوتوا
له ترا “بيمتطيكم” إذا وصل البرلماÙâ€
إنت وأشكالك المميزينوالطائÙÂيينهم المÙÂروض منلا يجب التصويت لهم ويجب أنلا يصلوا للبرلمان..
إنت إنسانØÂاقد على الشعب عموما وعلى الشيخ عسيى قاسم بالذات والدليل موقعك الإلكترونيوهايإقتباس منه
اذا الرجل لا ÙŠÙÂكر بمثل تÙÂكيرك لا تهاجمه بإسلوب رخيص.. كنأÙÂضل منه وبينوجهة نظرك بإسلوب عقلانيويتقبله الجميع وليس بإسلوب يجلب الØÂزازيات والإستÙÂزازات لمشاعر الناس
وراوينا اشلون(بتمتطينا) Ø¥ØÂنا الشعب وإذا عندك كلام إنزل الإنتخابات وتكلم وقول كل هالكلام الليتقوله، والأÙÂكار الليما وصل اليها إنسانوكائنبشريغيرك على الملأ، سمعنا إشلون“المطية” اتكونيا ÙÂالØÂØŸ ..
I also tried to be neutral. I didnt even register in any political society just to be free in my political thinking and to choose “right” from “wrong”.
I was this too close to register in Wa’ad in the beginning of 2006 as i was very close to people in side and as i knew that this society would NOT attack any other single citizen for his educational, religous and political background but if I found out that people like you are actually in Wa’ad, I would say: to hell YOU, and your society as it is aint different than any other sectarian society.
This a quote from other people who replied on your post as it is clear that you are actually posting in any famous blog or site to spread your infertile ideas.
CG
I would like to ask you a couple of things. do you not think that there are a lot of people who didn’t vote last time because they were told not to, and would not vote for a female because they are told not to and demonstrated against the family/personal law because they were told to and will vote/not vote for certain people because they are told to?
aren’t there people who will agree with everything told them by their chosen leaders without question?
you may be soemone who makes up his own mind and that is great, but aren’t there a lot of people who allow others to tell them what their minds should be? if you have been to meetings as you say you have, I would bet you have met many people like that..
mahmmod is not running in the elections of course, but by saying “I will tell people not to vote for you” are you saying that there are people who will vote a certain way because you will tell them how to vote? aren’t you effectively doing the same thing?
doctors should understand medicine, teachers should understand their subjects and how to teach, religious leaders should understand religion and politicians should understand politics. what we don’t need is a parliament full of reigious zealots who don’t understand the impact their decisions will have on the economy. wouldn’t you agree? in fact among those that alwefaq are supporting, there are a couple of people who probably WOULD contribute positively to the parliament if they are elected. but it is a shame that some good people from last time have decided to withdraw/not run again, while others who were rubbish will.
in any case, if everyone does educate themselves about the issues and votes according to them, there might be some hope.. i say some because I see a list of people running that is hugely unbalanced in favour of religion, and no matter how good religion is, that can’t possibly be a great thing, in the long run.
sadly, our society still has to make mistakes and learn from them, we still don’t have the ability to predict consequences.. that means progress will be much slower and costlier than it needs to be..
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First of all I must tell you that the posts I made were because I don’t want to hear/see people humilating others just because the people’s opinions were not on the same track as theirs..
Returning to your comment, my response is.. Not only islamists but all boycotting societies’ members did not vote the last time.
Please differentiate between “told to” or decided upon thinking and discussing or in another words if we can say “influenced by”.
Let’s be “Democrats” for a few seconds and return to 2002. We were told by OUR society that boycotting would put some pressure on the government so it can reconsider the constitution. We returned to home, discussed it with friends & said “True, let’s boycott”.
Recently in the family/personal law, we said let’s come out with a law that can protect women’s rights. So we returned home, discussed it with friends “True, let’s support the law”.
The same thing happend to Al-Wefaq. Only with Wefaq, rules & ideas are based on Islamic background.
As much as I can’t interfere with your freedom of choice, thinking or belief. You should respect your neighbour’s Islamic choice, thinking or belief.
Returning to Wefaq.. They based their discussions about any issue (not necesserly the family/personal law as I actually have a very good explanation about it but I won’t discuss it now).. I say they discussed it based on Islamic laws. They discuss it as speeches to the public and the public has the option to go home (as Democrats did) discuss it & choose. Vote with or against, accept the law or not to accept.
Islamists are not ordering people. They are explaining issues from an Islamic point of view. Whether it effects Islam or not. And people have their own choice in deciding what to take or not. And then the “poles/elections” decide.
Whoever says Islamic people are people who don’t think and are guided or people who have no emotions, no logical thinking is either someone not living in our society or an enemy to Islamists and Islam.
If you take Islamic laws as “basis” for your everyday lifestyle activites then “DeFiNiTeLy” you’ll choose someone who is near to your views.
That’s why some (and here I say some) will choose on this basis. If you take a look on the election’s map, you’ll see religious people going one on one with democratic people who are supported by the “boycotting team”. A priminarly pole says: the “Democratic” guy is winning. Here people chose upon the effect of the “boycotting team” (which is not 50% Islamic) even though the other guy is a “mosque shaikh”.
Still there are people who are very religious and do not choose the Islamic candidates. They’ll choose someone they know & wait and see it clear on the 25th.
On the counter, some (here I say some) Islamists say voting for females is against Islamic rules but other Islamists say it will benefit the people to vote for “the” woman.
It’s an “eLeCtIoOoOoOoN”. Speeches will be everywhere, promises everywhere and the winner by majority will be decided upon the results of the “White Box” on the 25th.
One more explanation… the
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Do you really think this is true?
Dear, when it comes to understanding life and understanding our needs and knowing the words to say and carrying the courage to say it, everyone is a politician. You’ll see doctors in the Parlement along side lawyers, teachers, salesmen and even unemployees.
Everyone knows politics.
But please do not say people (my people) don’t understand and dont think, people see what is right (in their own point of view) and judge upon it. If “Democrats” hate the Islamic speeches, then please.. be my guest and let’s see the “Democratic” speeches.
I just commented on one very (Democartic) speech up in the beginning of this post.
Returning to your comment, my response is.. Not only islamists but all boycotting societies’ members did not vote the last time.
Please differentiate between “told to†or decided upon thinking and discussing or in another words if we can say “influenced byâ€Â.
Recently in the family/personal law, we said let’s come out with a law that can protect women’s rights. So we returned home, discussed it with friends “True, let’s support the lawâ€Â.
The same thing happend to Al-Wefaq. Only with Wefaq, rules & ideas are based on Islamic background.
As much as I can’t interfere with your freedom of choice, thinking or belief. You should respect your neighbour’s Islamic choice, thinking or belief.
Islamists are not ordering people. They are explaining issues from an Islamic point of view. Whether it effects Islam or not. And people have their own choice in deciding what to take or not. And then the “poles/elections†decide.
I don’t think islamists have no emotions, i think they are extremely emotional but i do think that they are guided, and i also don’t agree with the rest of your statement. it sounds too much like George Bush’s “with us or against us mentality” .
whatever you base your everyday life on, whatever religion or beliefs are, isn’t it better to choose the peson who is best qualified for the job than to choose someone who agrees with you?
it’s a shame that anyone would even discuss such a thing in this day and age, after all that women have done in Bahrain.
it is interesting having this discussion now, I am watching the american elections for the house and senate now and the stories of mudslinging and lies written about some of the candidates is horrible.
yes, i do.
that’s the problem. everyone thinks they are a politician, but they aren’t. a little knowledge is dangerous. that was obvious from the last parliament. people got on who don’t understand politics, or diplomacy, or the long term results of their decisions or even their own job descriptions. it is a big responsibility, representing people, not everyone can do it.
i don’t know who your people are, and actually as i have said in other posts, i don’t believe in democracy because it means majority rules, even if their decisions aren’t the best for the country.
it allows the masses to vote for the people they like or who agree with them instead of the most qualified for the job. if you are going to have democratic elections, i think that there should be rules about who can get on, such as a minumum education, and a minimum years of living in Bahrain, and to not be someone who has been convicted of a crime and a lot of other things. we are an educated country, i don’t think having people with a high school degree should be representing us or even people who just became naturalized, for example.
maybe we will be ready for true democracy in the future, and maybe we have to learn the hard way.. as i said before, hopefully there will be something left by then..
can we talk now
So now you are trying to breakdown my entire comment intellectually so it can show how smart you are and divide the whole picture so no one can know what I am talking about??
very clever 🙂
It’s obvious you didn’t understand the whole picture yet.
I won’t reply on each statement you made. I need to a copy and paste a quote. Instead, let me tell you what I understood from your last comment.
1- You still can’t realize what religion means to those who believe in it.
2- I was referring to all people by democrats and islamists. Another words, it was hypothetical situation. Therefore, I did not discuss the family-law with my friends.
3- You still refer to leaders as “those who they consider” and people listening to them as “waiting to be told” so basically speaking, you still have this unrecoginition thing in your mind which frankly to say, would make you a very bad candidate to be elected :).
4- If my statements sound like Bush’s why dont you give me your opinion towards Islamists and Islam frankly. This will answer your question. (You dont have to, I already know)
What’s really funny about your comment that in the end you began saying that you dont believe in democrisy because it says “majority rules”. Now you want only fewer people with a limited years of education to vote or to be elected, a limited years of living in Bahrain.. etc..,
It’s obvious what will satisfy you.. Is that who you personally choose will be chosen.. typical Arabic-mind..
Btw, don’t try to mix-up subjects.. it’s NOT about knowing my people or not.. it’s about using very shallow expressions towards other people if they don’t think the same way as yours. Do you really consider yourself a balanced person???? :S
Finally, answering your “first” reply; quote
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So now replying on those who offended people, in another words, standing-up for people, is considered the same as humilation. So it’s the same as Law 56??