One erstwhile Arab leader on trial… more to follow

from Toronto, Canada

I don’t give a toss what happens to Saddam. To me, he just symbolises the archaic, cruel, backward and inflexible 22 regimes constituting the Arab world. He has fallen. His last abode was fox-hole from which the coward was dug out of, that is the picture I will treasure for the rest of my life. That was a just end to a despot who has no remorse for any of the heinous crimes he committed.

But that action was the catalyst for a new reign which holds much promise for one Arab nation: a hope for democracy, freedoms, and accountability.

Arab leaders take note: Saddam’s fate is awaiting you unless you diligently and honestly work with your people to ensure a smooth hand-over of power, respect for freedoms, inculcate transparency and tolerance and be ready to be held accountable within the law.

The current situation in any Arab country is miserable. Walk in any Arab street, go into any Arab office and you will be faced not with a proudly displayed copy of the “bill or rights”, or even an extract of the Qur’an, but rather with large pictures of current rulers, their forebears and descendants who in some cases are just started having wet dreams, all of whom are elevated to the status of Gods whom the populace are directed in no uncertain terms to worship. They are the all-wise and all-benevolent.

Government sponsored media continue to pour platitudes on their wisdom which is portrayed as far surpassing that of Solomon, even though some are at best illiterate and habitually trip over their double-digit IQ. In “enlightened” countries as the Emirates, Libya, Syria, Egypt and others they have even created segments in print and television extolling their pearls of their wisdom which to even a moron might at best sound asinine. “The sky is blue” one of them would declare in one of his courts and you can be assured that it’s tomorrows’ headlines not only in the press, but even broadcast by their so-called news agencies. And sections like “from the sayings of the leader” or “from the wisdom of the leader” are born by the multitudes of kowtowing sheep which constitute the vast majority their flock.

Is there hope in getting them to understand that they are mortal and their day of reckoning is coming? Do they further fail to realise that they will meet with the reckoning of their people first before they go and meet their maker, much like Saddam?

What have we contributed to this world? Although the collection of geographic locations collectively known as the Arab world has been a global leader in all manner of sciences and the arts, those days of course are far far behind us that it behooves us to face the fact that under the current socio-political situation those days will never return. Essentially we have had nothing to show over the last millennium, yet we retain our misplaced pride and arrogance. We continue to shout out that: We are Arabs. We are Muslims. We are the leaders of the world. We hold the moral high-ground. We are right. Everybody else is wrong. And what has that state of stagnation resulted in? Terrorists hell-bent on world destruction simply because the views of the world, that is the “other” 2/3rds who share this spic of universe with us do not share these views and values.

We have been conditioned over the centuries to worship not Allah in all his magnificence and glory, but those sorry excuse for humanity who’s claims to fame are a strong arm and the readiness with which they ladle cruelty to their people.

But us, the people of this area, deserve nothing less! We started our deterioration from the principles of democracy literally at our Prophet’s death-bed upon which the sharp daggers of tribalism once again ruled supreme, as if the teachings of Islam where just another tool used and abused to further personal and tribal gain. Influence, unchecked power and the propagation of the status quo are the de-facto state tools.

Should we then feel surprised at the complete absence of patriotism? At the complete apathy and lethargy the populace feel? Our Arab person will continue to protect what is his only, and what’s for the others be damned. Is it a surprise that the most active charities are those headed by foreigners? Is it a surprise that the so called Red Crescent society doesn’t hold a feather to the Red Cross? Is it a surprise that the Arab is only concerned with feathering his own nest and his neighbour and even extended family be damned?

Why should we care?

We don’t belong. We are not citizens unless we are told that we are. We are not patriotic unless it is opportune to be seen as such, and that is momentary at best.

Thus we arrive at the crux of the problem; how is one to care for his surroundings, environment, fellow human beings or even be creative and contribute to society if he does not “belong”? Subservient to higher-beings by virtue of birth rather than intellect and popular choice. Worthlessness rules supreme.

To explode out of this ever-descending spiral, the people must realise that there is no future nor a place in the future for despotic regimes because they not only sap the country of its will, but also contribute to its perpetual decline, thus the only expression that is left for the people is to turn to terrorists whom they secretly applaud not because they necessarily agree with that they’re doing, but because it’s some entity who are directly challenging much despised governments. That does not condone the actions of terrorists nor their sympathisers in any form, but it is what I feel is happening at the moment.

Comments

  1. anonymous

    One erstwhile Arab leader on trial… more to follow

    Great post Mahmood. As always you are right on target and saying what needs to be said. I couldn’t agree more. Keep it up. I linked to it from my blog [url]http://rantwraith.blogspot.com/[/url] Enjoy your vacation and be safe.

  2. anonymous

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  3. anonymous

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    Oh Mahmood, you make my heart sing….sorry, Wild Thing was on TV last night AGAIN! This is a terrific post, but you are suppose to be on vacation. If you are this angry with just a little taste of freedom, I can’t wait to read what you write when you get back.

    Regards,
    Marlene

  4. anonymous

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    Mahmood,

    I hope you are enjoying a cool summer there. It is ^*&^%$ hot here!!! It is twice as hot as I imagined it would be! Beautiful none the less!! I DO NOT want to leave!

    P! (baking in Bahrain)

  5. anonymous

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    Great comments Mahmood. Now that more Iraqi and Arabic blogs are being cited in the mainstream media in the West (Iraq The Model seems the be the hot one these days), hopefully your wise words will find their way into forums where they can make a positive impact.

    However, when I think about what you said about the goverment-controlled media so pervasive in the ME, I would say that it’s even more important that blogs like yours find their way onto the Arab & Muslim streets, so that maybe just a little of that brainwashing can be reversed. I think a lot of Arabs in the region would be shocked if they knew how radically different the point of view of many Iraqis towards America’s soldiers is from their own. Since getting this sort of information in the ME through broadcast & print media is practically a lost cause without real governmental and media reform, the Internet would seem to be the last (and, I think, the best) hope for the spreading of news and of honest viewpoints and opinions.

    Keep up the good work, blessed soldier in this media war. You definitely fight the good fight and we all appreciate it.

    –Michael in Los Angeles

  6. anonymous

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    “the Arab world has been a global leader in all manner of sciences and the arts, those days of course are far far behind us that it behooves us to face the fact that under the current socio-political situation those days will never return.”

    With all the wealth there exists in the Gulf and Saudi Arabia, I wonder why a lot of the sheiks and princes don’t build laboratories and research centers instead of more palaces.

    -Aliandra

  7. mikemike

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    Terrific post, Mahmood.
    You gotta have a meet-up in Toronto before you go.

  8. [deleted]0.80781300 1099323158.377

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    It’s good to have you back. I was just starting to become addicetd to your blog when you left for your vacation.
    I agree with Michael from Los Angeles.. more Arabs need to read this. Ever though about blogging in Arabic?

    Great post, definitlely worth the wait..
    Keep them coming..
    And enjoy what’s left of your vacation.

  9. anonymous

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    I love your blog, Mahmood!

    Steve in Nashville

  10. anonymous

    Trackback :: Mahmood On Saddam

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    Mahmood has some great things to say about Saddam and all the rest of the Arab "leaders". Well worth reading.

  11. markdoenitz[deleted]1101322982

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    [quote] more Arabs need to read this. Ever though about blogging in Arabic? [/quote]

    I wish more in the “west” would read this blog as well. Mahmood and other blogs in the ME have done more in some ways in bridge building between cultures than roomfuls of pinhead diplomats have done in the past 20 years.

  12. anonymous

    Trackback :: Mahmood On Saddam

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    Mahmood has some great things to say about Saddam and all the rest of the Arab "leaders". Well worth reading.

  13. anonymous

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    [quote]With all the wealth there exists in the Gulf and Saudi Arabia, I wonder why a lot of the sheiks and princes don’t build laboratories and research centers instead of more palaces.[/quote]

    Because they don’t give a rats ass about their people or the future of their countries. They devote their wealth to their own pleasure, not the public good.

    Steve

  14. anonymous

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    WOW Mahmood….pretty powerful stuff…hope your having a great time traveling the world on vacation…hope you find some really unique stuff for your new home while on your travels…..stay safe.
    River

  15. mosilini

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    I wonder when the trial for the new Iraqi Prime Minister Iyad Allawi will be held: [quote]Iyad Allawi, the new Prime Minister of Iraq, pulled a pistol and executed as many as six suspected insurgents at a Baghdad police station, just days before Washington handed control of the country to his interim government, according to two people who allege they witnessed the killings.[/quote] See the report in the Sydney Morning Herald: [url]http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2004/07/16/1089694568757.html[/url]

    [Modified by: GhostTownOrange (OrangeHans) on July 16, 2004 06:35 PM]

  16. anonymous

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    I agree that more people need to be reading this and hope it comes to pass. Thanks Mahmood.
    Pat in NC

  17. anonymous

    One erstwhile Arab leader on trial… more to follow

    “But that action was the catalyst for a new reign which holds much promise for one Arab nation: a hope for democracy, freedoms, and accountability.”

    Great point! I also hope the cracks of reform start melting the granite face of dictatorship and backwardness in the ME. It seems to be happening.

    The “liberating Iraq” blog I have links to your blog. Please consider returning the favor, thanks! It is here:
    [url]http://freedomstruth.blogspot.com/[/url]

  18. anonymous

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    Mahmood…You bring up a good point about the charities. I have been thinking a lot about this lately. Freedom does a funny thing to people. There is such a misunderstanding of the concept of freedom in the ME I think. It means the freedom to participate in making the rules…not the absence of rules. It is a way of empowering people.

    Without freedom how can there be any virtue as there is no choice?
    I notice on a lot of blogs that many people in the Middle East cannot even imagine that the US might do something just because its right rather than some sinister, evil selfish motive. Freedom does funny things to people. It makes you less selfish…because when you have experience making the rules for your own society, you have to think of everyone.

    thinker

  19. anonymous

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    Hi Mahmood,

    I think one of the most important things that should be stressed to people who are trying to grasp basic democracy (like most Arabs) is the understanding that it is as equally important to have the ability to vote a person or party OUT of power as much as having the ability to vote them IN. It should also be stressed that losing an election is not the end of the world for a political party if you have a strong constitution that guarantees elections every 4 or 5 years. A consistent schedule of elections supported by constitutional law is the key to a successful democratic society: not just the ability to vote people into power.

    Perhaps there needs to be a simple pamphlet (10 or 12 pages at most) that explains basic democracy to the Arab population. It should be nothing fancy, just very basic and informative. Kind of like a little food for the brain to get the parts moving.

    Just a thought…

  20. anonymous

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    [quote]I saw this happen in South Vietnam, where the people felt they had no choice but to accept what the Americans were foisting upon them, millions died as a result, and countless thousands were sent to the re-education camps.
    The rest who supported the Americans, after being seduced by them, were cast adrift and abandoned to their fates , such is the gratitude of the fickle U.S.
    I can see the citizens of Iraq also falling into the same category, and eventually being cast adrift by the Americans to their fate.
    Everyday, I hope and pray, that somewhere in the M.E. there is a person who can rally the Arab nations to unite, and make a stand against the constant aggressive tactics being adopted by the U.S. and its sycophants, in trying to force countries to their bidding, at their own detriment.
    Sure, the U.S. may have a powerful military, however POWER in it’self doesn’t mean anything.
    What are they going to do, for instance, if all the citizens of a particular city, walked out and surrounded a U.S. military camp, protesting on their doorsteps, demanding they leave their country forthwith ?
    Will the Americans and their sycophants kill them all ?
    How would that go down with the rest of the world ?
    Or better still, blocked their supply lines and starved them to submission, let’s not forget, there are many more Iraqis then there are co-alition forces, and if the country UNITES in it;s objectives, they will suceed. [/quote]

    Thanks for the shallow and un-insightfull comment!

    I won’t bother to refute the whole thing as it is a waste of my valuable time.

    But I will make a brief comment… you say you are an American, a Nam Vet and refer to America as “this wonderful country” before you go off on a rant heaping scorn and blame on the USA.

    I’m also an American and a Southwest Asian Veteran (the Persian Gulf to you civilian types) and I disagree with all of your statements. If the Iraqis embrace democracy, no small task in itself, they will be much better off than any other ME country as a result. The standard of living will improve and the populace will be happier and better for it.

    It is unfathomable to me that, as a US Vet, you would incite violence against Americans wherever they are. You have obviously forgotten which side your bread is buttered on.

    My only regret and is that we werent in close proximity when you said it.

    Thanks for nothing and good day.

    – US VET

  21. anonymous

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    Mahmood. I enjoy reading your blog and you have some excellent points. Despite the fact that the arab world has many flaws and a lot of room to improve, you should also focus on positives and take a neutral stance towards issues. It seems like you are bitter towards just about everything arab-related. I understand that it is in part related to your writing style which may be sarcastic at times.
    anyways, back to this post.. I know just about every arab would agree that our leaders are selfish, egocentric and do much more bad than good… so I do agree with you 100% on that issue.
    Government controlled media is also a big set back for us, however, no matter where you go you will find that the media is biased towards a particular issue. In my opinion, the western media has proven to be the most biased and manipulative if you truly look between the lines.The fact that the media plays a much bigger role in westerners lives is also a big contributor. These media conglomerates have discovered a more advanced way of brainwashing that is far more effective than others, simply because it is so inherent in everything. No one can deny that freedom in any form is a great thing, but are westerners really free or experiencing a new type of ’21st century’ slavery? dependent and controlled by few, powerful leftists that control the media and, in turn, peoples thoughts and opinions.. just something to think about..

    AF

  22. anonymous

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    Sounds like one more unhappy, whining Canadian… this is not a US Vet.

  23. markdoenitz[deleted]1101322982

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    [quote]A consistent schedule of elections supported by constitutional law is the key to a successful democratic society: not just the ability to vote people into power. [/quote]

    A consistent election schedule is a FACTOR but not the KEY. The true key for a democratic society is consistent open participation by the populus. Election schedules mean NOTHING if those running are hand picked and are puppets to another master. Even worse is apathy in the election process by the population.

    The concept of democracy is not hard to grasp for anyone. Building a democracy is another subject. There is no one cookie cutter, shake n bake mold that can be used.

  24. anonymous

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    Bonsaimark-
    You are mistaken. What is called Western “democracy”, i.e. America, is not a democracy at all. It is a Constitutional Republic, check your history books. Just because the elections are democratic does not mean the system is a democracy. Democracy is just the name of a system which supports gang rule. “Consistent elections,” as you put it, will just result in a revolving door of gang leaders. Rotating gang rule- some system, Bonsai.

    And you’re wrong, there is “one cookie cutter” system that works and is moral: a constitutional republic in which the sole purpose of the government is to protect INDIVIDUAL RIGHTS, which includes private property. A governement which is limited by a constitution to protect the right of every individual to live FOR HIS OWN SAKE, especially to protect every individual from the coercive power of the government itself, is the root of the success the West has achieved. The degree to which the West is streering away from that origingal American system (i.e. the Socialist Left AND the religious Right) is the degree to which the West will end up in shambles just like the Middle East.

    On the other hand, the degree to which the world accepts INDIVIDUAL RIGHTS is the degree to which the world will prosper.

    Mahmood- I encourage you to read America’s Declaration of Independence and also the author Ayn Rand. The answers are there.

  25. anonymous

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    “dependent and controlled by few, powerful leftists that control the media and, in turn, peoples thoughts and opinions..”

    AF, could you please tell me who these few leftists are? I always wondered to whom the voices in my head, wich are telling me what to do, belong. The Jooooos?

    A brainwashed Westerner wrote this under remote-control

  26. anonymous

    reply

    hey, mahmoud –

    what’s the story with terror warnings in Bahrain? you got out of the country at the right time, it seems.

  27. anonymous

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    Came across your Blog by accident, thus was pleasantly surpised.
    I follow quiet a few Iraq (amongst others) blogs as I find it an excellent method of keeping tabs on how people feel on todays issues and the effects they are having on them and their lives.
    Thus, I was quiet surprised with your post regarding your erstwhile leader, to which I would like to respond too in due course.
    However, first let me point out that I TRIED to REGISTER, though couldn’t get past the over 13 years of age page, so that’s why I’m annonymous.
    Could you check out the registration procedure, as I don’t think it’s working properly ?
    OK, got that off my chest, no let’s get down to the nitty gritty.
    I’ve had more then the occasional differing of opinions with fellow bloggers and message boarders regarding the M.E. and issues there.
    Mainly the claim of many nationalities from that location, that they have a rich history, and that they were further advanced in many fields then their Western counterparts.
    But to be frank, (I’m 54 years of age, and a Vietnam Veteran, as well as an Australian born in Germany, who’s parents migrated to this wonderful country when I was 3, seeking a new and better life) so it’s not as if I’m illiterate and unknowledgible.
    The fact is, throughout my lifetime, the M.E. has been in painful turmoil, and the citizens from this area, despite claiming they are followers of Islam, and devout believers, are very much like their Western counterparts who CLAIM to be Christians and live accordingly, which NEITHER of them do.
    The second point is that they have made no effort, to bring ANY form of self determination and government to themselves, seeming to prefer to place themselves at the mercy of their dictators and wealthy robber barons as well as their questionable religious leaders.
    It’s also VERY true, that the Western countries have assisted and encouraged these dictators to hold onto power, allowing them to control the wealth of these countries to the DETRIMENT and the BENEFIT of the dictators and their Western supporters.
    I have witnessed first hand, how a country can be subverted by the Western countries, and the people who are easy targets because of their vulnerability under their dictators, are easy targets to manipulate and control.
    I’m seeing this happen once more in Iraq, where the Iraqi people are being robbed of their nationalism, and being presuaded to accept what the Americans are shoving down their throats, simply because they are so vulnerable and wish things to return to some normalicy.
    I saw this happen in South Vietnam, where the people felt they had no choice but to accept what the Americans were foisting upon them, millions died as a result, and countless thousands were sent to the re-education camps.
    The rest who supported the Americans, after being seduced by them, were cast adrift and abandoned to their fates , such is the gratitude of the fickle U.S.
    I can see the citizens of Iraq also falling into the same category, and eventually being cast adrift by the Americans to their fate.
    Everyday, I hope and pray, that somewhere in the M.E. there is a person who can rally the Arab nations to unite, and make a stand against the constant aggressive tactics being adopted by the U.S. and its sycophants, in trying to force countries to their bidding, at their own detriment.
    Sure, the U.S. may have a powerful military, however POWER in it’self doesn’t mean anything.
    What are they going to do, for instance, if all the citizens of a particular city, walked out and surrounded a U.S. military camp, protesting on their doorsteps, demanding they leave their country forthwith ?
    Will the Americans and their sycophants kill them all ?
    How would that go down with the rest of the world ?
    Or better still, blocked their supply lines and starved them to submission, let’s not forget, there are many more Iraqis then there are co-alition forces, and if the country UNITES in it;s objectives, they will suceed.
    Keep up the good work with your blog.

  28. markdoenitz[deleted]1101322982

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    If you want to get technical you are correct. The US is a “republic”. For the sake of discussion we are a DEMOCRACY. I have no desire to get into a pissing contest over it with you, nor do I wish to discuss Locke, Russo, Friedrich Nietzsche and Jefferson’s interpretation of their works.

    There can never be a “cookie cutter” system. All share some basic groundwork yes but regional, religious and cultural issues make it impossible to have a shake n bake democracy. The premise of democracy is participation by the people. That is the KEY.

  29. [deleted]0.61248300 1099323359.472

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    First time here Mahmood. You are good. You have a great writing style and are not afraid to speak your mind.

  30. anonymous

    One erstwhile Arab leader on trial… more to follow

    “The premise of democracy is participation by the people. That is the KEY.”

    The key feature is the regular opportunity of a peaceful change of government. No “elections delayed because of the emergency”. No removal of opposition candidates, or removal of opposition voters from rolls. No 96% majorities.

  31. anonymous

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    Also, the concept of a loyal opposition is crucial. The party in power must accept that those who criticize them are not traitors, but patriots with different opinions.

  32. markdoenitz[deleted]1101322982

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    Definiton of Democracy from Websters

    4 entries found for democracy.
    democracypure democracysocial democracyTory Democracy

    Main Entry: de·moc·ra·cy
    Pronunciation: di-‘mä-kr&-sE
    Function: noun
    Inflected Form(s): plural -cies
    Etymology: Middle French democratie, from Late Latin democratia, from Greek dEmokratia, from dEmos + -kratia -cracy
    1 a : government by the people; especially : rule of the majority b : a government in which the supreme power is vested in the people and exercised by them directly or indirectly through a system of representation usually involving periodically held free elections
    2 : a political unit that has a democratic government
    3 capitalized : the principles and policies of the Democratic party in the U.S.
    4 : the common people especially when constituting the source of political authority
    5 : the absence of hereditary or arbitrary class distinctions or privileges

  33. anonymous

    Trackback :: The effect of dictatorship on the Arab world

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    Mahmood’s Den has a great post on this topic. Exerpt: To explode out of this ever-descending spiral, the people must realise that there is no future nor a place in the future for despotic regimes because they not only sap…

  34. anonymous

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    Cheers, I enjoyed your perspective, very inspiring, keep up the quality writing. -a dumb american.

  35. anonymous

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    What do you do with traitors who pose as loyal opposition? For example, what would you call socialists posing as pacifists marching down the streets of your capital bearing banners calling for the overthrow of the government at the same time they oppose a war to overthrow a foreign tyranny? Should you give them the benefit of the doubt, ignore their calls for a socialist revolution, avoid televising their banners calling for the downfall of their democracy, and call them loyal opposition in spite of their own treasonous position?

    Steve

  36. Amber

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    “I think one of the most important things that should be stressed to people who are trying to grasp basic democracy (like most Arabs) is the understanding that it is as equally important to have the ability to vote a person or party OUT of power as much as having the ability to vote them IN. It should also be stressed that losing an election is not the end of the world for a political party if you have a strong constitution that guarantees elections every 4 or 5 years. A consistent schedule of elections supported by constitutional law is the key to a successful democratic society: not just the ability to vote people into power.”

    Hi guys. I was in a hurry when I wrote this (before I registered) and I know it’s a bit simpistic. Still, while I agree with all your points I’ll stick to my guns on this one…:-)

  37. anonymous

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    I wonder when the witnesses to this alleged event will come forward out of the shadows and give details that can be verified. Otherwise, it sounds like disinformation meant to discredit the new Iraqi government.

    You are being quite credulous.

    Steve

  38. anonymous

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    [p]What a load of crap (not you, Mahmood). Apparently wartime service has clouded your ability to read something in context.[/p] [p]The point being made here is that foreign (largely U.S.) interference without regard to the needs – much less desires – of the majority of Iraqi people is the rule of the day in the new Iraq. [/p][p]The invasion and subsequent “democratization” of Iraq is a rightful target of international criticism because the Bush administration is excluding the vast majority of people most affected by it from the very process.[/p][p]There’s no shame in calling for pan-Arab unity to create an alternative to both U.S. interventionism [i]and[/i] the grossly corrupt and incompetent leadership that is the norm throughout the Arab world today.[/p][p]Anyone who has actually read the paragraphs you quoted [i]in their full context[/i] would understand that.[/p] [p]As for your implied threat towards the author – it’s an excellent example of the hypocrisy that’s often exercised by the U.S. abroad, i.e.: you have an inherent right to free speech as long as you say what we like – or else; you have an inherent right to security and dignity unless it’s an American who infringes on those rights – in which case we claim immunity, etc.[/p] We send our military into countries using the justification that we’re going to end authoritarian rule and put the “bad guys” on trial, then we use their ends to achieve those means, all the while making sure that anyone who screws up on our end is never held accountable (Rumsfeld is a good case-in-point). Is it any wonder that we’re resented, even if you believe the party line that our intentions were good?[/p]

  39. anonymous

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    I’m ashamed to Think you are an American Vet of Vietmam. Is this John Kerry?

  40. anonymous

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    You hit it on the nose. When only 22% of the public is literate, by design. It’s much easier to controll the populace.

  41. anonymous

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    Right on! We as peoples of different cultures and religions are not enemies. Our governments are ran by Big Buisness and they don’t give a crap about us. We love you and hope this B.S. ends soon.
    Hang Tuff and don’t believe the B.S.
    We will over come.

  42. anonymous

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    A leader should never ask anyone to do something he would not do himself. The people he killed did not want a peaceful transition. Looks like Iraq has found a good leader.
    kev

  43. anonymous

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    You are right, we are a republic. But left or right? The alternating pattern of left or right is what keeps us in center.
    kev

  44. anonymous

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    س[size=9][/size][url][color=orange][/color][color=red][/colصورجنس مجاني

  45. anonymous

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    -*

    Dear Prince,

    Thank you for the cool cats.

    This may be a long post but I think it’s fitting.

    ——————————————————————

    Simple like 911. I Deal Reality.

    Dear Ally,

    From: Undisclosed-Recipient:,
    Date: 07/04/04 14:00.21
    To: GES*G911*
    Subject: Fw: You are My Friend.

    Forward friend. Peace through strength.

    As found (at) http://almuajaha.com/

    Kindly

    Augurwell esq.
    Chessire
    GES*G911*

    Review: Crime & Police
    Joint Weekend Raids Lead to Arrests in Iraq + Contact Info Current rating: +
    by Aegis Emergency GES*G911* Intelligence Service*
    Email: interpolottawa (at) bellnet.ca (unverified!)
    Phone: Ph: (613) 990.9595 Canada
    Address: interpolottawa@bellnet.ca replace ( at ) with @ FAX # (613) 993.8309 03 Aug 2004
    Modified: 12:53:26 PM

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    Contacts:
    (Please help.)

    Interpol is operational 24 hours a day, seven days a week. You can contact the NCB at:

    http://www.interpol.int/Public/Links/PolJust.asp

    Central Bureau of Interpol http://www.usdoj.gov/usncb/

    F.B.I. https://tips.fbi.gov/

    (SSL 3.0, RC4 with 128 bit encryption (High); RSA with 1024 bit exchange)

    Building Iraq

    http://www.rebuilding-iraq.net/

    Office of the Inspector General

    http://www.dodig.osd.mil/

    Or in confidence with discretion.
    To: Aegis (at) aegisi (at) sympatico.ca

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    Allied Forces Press Service

    WASHINGTON, Aug. 2, 2004 — A cell leader and a suspected bomb maker were among several insurgents detained during joint operations by Iraqi and U.S. forces over the past 48 hours, Multinational Force Iraq officials announced in news releases today.

    During a search near Jalula today, Taha Ahmed Kalif, a known cell leader of anti-Iraqi forces, was captured with two other suspects in the village of Bisher.

    Ali Ahmed Hamdoosh, who military officials say is a known improvised-explosive- device maker, was taken into custody along with 11 other suspected insurgents. Soldiers from the 1st Infantry Division captured Hamdoosh near Duluiyah about 1:30 a.m. today. The detainees were taken to a military detention facility for questioning.

    Other arrests were made in Baghdad, where Iraqi police officers apprehended four insurgents believed to have attacked a police station with small-arms fire Aug. 1.

    Also in Baghdad, officials reported that the four explosions occurring near Baghdad churches Aug. 1 killed 10 Iraqi civilians and wounded more than 40. The four IEDs detonated over about a 30-minute period. The largest blast occurred in central Baghdad, where a vehicle-borne improvised explosive device detonated outside a church, leaving a six-foot by five-foot crater.

    Iraqi Police found a fifth IED, consisting of 15 mortar rounds, also near a Baghdad church. “Iraqi police provided a professional, rapid response to each of these attacks,” said Army Lt. Col. James Hutton, 1st Cavalry Division spokesman.

    Military officials also said an Iraqi Police quick-reaction force was sent to the Sargon police station near Dibis — about 50 kilometers northeast of Kirkuk — to help repel an attack Aug. 1.

    No Iraqi police officers were wounded in the skirmish, and there was no damage to police equipment or buildings, according to military reports.

    Elsewhere, several anti-Iraqi force members were taken into custody Aug. 1 during joint operations in Tall Afar in Ninevah province. Military officials said Iraqi National Guard and MNFI soldiers detained 16 suspected anti-Iraqi forces members for questioning. Weapons and ammunition were seized during the operation, including rifles and rocket-propelled grenades and launchers.

    An off-duty Iraqi National Guard soldier may have prevented a car-bomb attack after notifying Iraqi authorities of a taxi laden with munitions outside of a church in northeastern Mosul Aug. 1. Iraqi explosive ordnance teams disarmed the bomb without injury and removed the vehicle.

    Earlier in the evening, a single car-bomb explosion killed and seven injured outside of another church in northeastern Mosul, according to an MNFI release. Attackers parked a bomb-laden car near the church and fired an unidentified rocket at the church before detonating the car bomb. A church office located next door sustained most of the damage, including a collapsed roof. The church itself reportedly sustained minimal damage, however, the blast destroyed five civilian vehicles nearby.

    Iraqi police and multinational forces on the scene reported that three unexploded munitions were found in the vicinity of the car bomb. Iraqi police secured the scene and the Iraqi explosive ordnance disposal team reduced the rounds without further damage.

    Also the same day, a suicide bomber drove a vehicle into a barrier outside of a police station in southeastern Mosul, killing three Iraqi police officers and two civilians. The blast wounded more than 50 people, including 43 civilians.

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    Global Emergency Service*

    PS

    by “The true still free pure precepts.”

    To win this war, we are applying a doctrine that is clear to all: Every person, group, or regime that harbors or supports terror is equally guilty of terrorist crimes, and will be held to account. (Applause.)

    In Afghanistan, the Taliban found out what we meant. Within weeks of 9/11, American forces were on the ground in Afghanistan, teaming up with Afghan freedom fighters to destroy the terrorist camps, where terrorists trained to kill Americans, and to take down the Taliban regime. With swift, precise action, we and our allies captured or killed hundreds of al Qaeda fighters, ended Taliban rule, liberated 25 million people, and closed the terrorist camps. (Applause.)

    Today Afghanistan has a new government. They have a new constitution. This fall they’ll have free elections, and they now are a developing democracy.(Standing Ovation)

    EMERGENCY IN THE SUDAN !

    See also:
    http://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/intpolicing/interpol_e.htm
    http://www.peace.ca/index.htm

    All’s fair…except for the evil stuff…Allah knows…

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  46. anonymous

    One erstwhile Arab leader on trial… more to follow

    Thank you, Mahmoud

    That state of decay that you’re describing is precisely why I’m American now, and not Lebanese.

    Allbest,
    Joe

  47. anonymous

    One erstwhile Arab leader on trial… more to follow

    Mahmood, ana taliba fi gami’at Brown wa uhib “blog”ak katheeran! 🙂

    Just practicing my Arabic (sorry, al-fusha only). . .

    I would also like to point out that freedom isn’t just about Ayn Rand and freeing oneself from the Western “leftist” media – it’s a shame that leftists don’t recognize the progress being made in Iraq but they are wonderful catalysts for change in their own societies. It is important to evaluate ideas based on their merit and not isolate people into ideological camps.

    A lot of right-wingers will post in support of your blog, Mahmood, but I am one leftist who really supports it and who supported the deposition of Hussein. I am also a Middle Eastern Studies major and I believe that whatever dialogue can exist between the East and West is a positive step towards reconciliation, and that your blog is a part of that.

    I think you are intelligent, well-spoken, and correct on a number of issues but I warn against the thinking that the “enemy of my enemy is my friend” that seems to categorize American political alliances, and which Iraqis are in danger of being sucked into simply due to the vast right-wing support of the War.

    Anyway, that’s my two cents.

    I invite you to visit my site as well, at:

    http://www.nataliasrealm.cjb.net

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