A Bahraini “Mahmood Abdulaziz” was killed today in a gun battle with security forces in Salmiya, Kuwait. The BBC reports 4 people killed, 3 terrorists and one policeman. As a Bahraini was killed too in the ensuing gunfire, was he too one of the terrorists? The BBC at least did not go into detail yet about the incident, however Radio Bahrain has reported just that “a Bahraini citizen was amongst the dead.”
This is great.. first Bahrain helps defends Kuwait during their war with Iraq by sending soldiers and equipment, now (if the deceased was indeed a terrorist, and it sounds like he was) we send terrorists to help rip it apart?
update: The Bahraini was residing in the same apartment building and was caught in the cross-fire. Our deep condolences to his family and friends. We still don’t know what exactly happened and how he was unwittingly killed, hopefully an inquiry into his death would be mounted so that the facts of the matter become known.
Isn’t it enough for Kuwait already? They’ve not had much peace since the ’60s, don’t they deserve a break? First Saddam terrorises them for 30 years, now they have these salafi terrorists (hold verdict on the Bahraini killed for now) shooting and sabotaging their country.
As if that is not enough, the Salafis have now unofficially “came out” and organised themselves in Kuwait as a political party, thus becoming the first gathering to call itself a political party in the Arabian Gulf. They possibly think now they will have the clout to rout their government, they always have I think, judging by what’s unfortunately happening in Kuwait.
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Aren’t there similar groups in good ol’ Bahrain doing the same thing?
(Mannequins etc etc etc)
Bahrain was a lovely place known for it’s tolerance. I don’t like going back there now.
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yes, and they’re close.
they’re (I hope) having a harder time here because we don’t have a “beduin problem” as in Kuwait where most of the Salafis are from, in fact one of their objectives for creating a political party is to limit the “hathar” or “city people” from getting all the high-level jobs! I digress. The Bahraini Salafis are “bedu wannabies”, now how sad is that?
I noticed in today’s Al-Wasat that Mohammed Buzizi, the God Father of hotels in Bahrain attacked Jassim Al-Saidi’s plan for the establishment of a “committee of promotion of vice and prevention of virtue” – oops, sorry, that should have been “committee of promotion of virtue and prevention of vice” – in that he rightly contends that this is only the tip of the iceberg, and if this motion comes to pass then we can forget about something called tourism in Bahrain.
Of course Al-Saidi, being an accomplished and accredited economist, says no. The economy WILL NOT be affected.
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Last thing I want to see in Bahrain are people with unkempt beards with a stick running after people…
Forced faith is bad, and makes people hate Islam rather than love it. I’d rather someone went through a mistake and learnt from it and have true faith rather than someone prostrating for fear of the religious police, not the fear and love for his/her God.
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Mahmood, I was wondering what you thought about the Iraqi elections? From my American view, it looks (cautiously) positive now – I hope this will mean that democracy will be able to take root in Iraq.
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[quote]Forced faith is bad, and makes people hate Islam rather than love it.[/quote]
For all of the screaming about how the US is attacking Islam, it truly seems that the Salafists and the Mullahs are the true force that drive people away from it.
I read somewhere that a good portion of the Iranian population would leave Islam once the Mullahs are removed. I wonder how the Middle East would respond to a mass apostate movement.
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Lets not get too hasty here. . . if we start seeing old dirty bastards with beards running around with sticks in Bahrain, they’d be lynched in a second. Imagine these guys going around in Bukawara or Exhibition Ave. screaming at people to stop whatever it is that they’re doing. . . or better yet, going to the drunk people who stumble out of nightclubs and giving them a lecture. . . “Whatchu say’n, (hiccup) who?. . .me? going to hell? . . . get outta here, dirt bag! Now go fetch me a vodka, you mini-thobe wearing motherfucker!”
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[quote]I read somewhere that a good portion of the Iranian population would leave Islam once the Mullahs are removed.[/quote]
It’s not [i]that[/i] bad. Those who will “leave” islam weren’t religious to start with. Iran is so unlike saudi in SO many ways. Women are allowed to drive for one and there are women in parliament, Jews and Christians can practise freely (look at Shiraz),Yes the fundementalists are annoying, but wouldn’t you say they’re the neo-conservative equivelant? Yes there will always be cases in the press, but those are unfourtunately what the press and Tv like to concentrate on. And yet Saudi dosen’t allow other temples of worhsip in it’s country and the press says nothing about it.
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I don’t care about people in Bukawar and Exhibiton my friend. As far as they’re concerned thats where I hope things actually get tuned down. I’m seeing a BIG trend in yob culture in those places and I truly despise it. What I’m worried about is ordinary civilians who will get targetted. I was once in Saudi and nearly got smacked by one of them for not going to prayer…(no one told them there was something called [i]qasr[/i] prayer, they told me to go repeat it!!
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The Bahraini was NOT a terrorist or a suspect! He simply lived in the house and the Kuwaiti suspects were using his home as a safe house.
[url]http://www.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/meast/01/30/kuwait.clash/index.html[/url]
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Phew.. that’s a relief… I guess he was forced into providing a safe house for the terrorists? That makes him okay I guess.
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Something doesn’t seem to pass the sniff test on this one. There are always exceptions and something things aren’t what they seem but hmmmmm does anyone want to take that chance at face value????
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Hold your horses guys. The Bahraini guy your are talking about is a brother of one of my team members at work. He is NOT a terrorist. He just left Bahrain last night with one of his friends on a casual visit to Kuwait. He was caught in the middle of the fire just because of the fact that he happened to be in the same building were a group of three terrorist was hiding. The time when the firing started, he was trying to run out and was shot at the door steps of the building. His friend (another Bahraini) is safe.
May mercy be upon his soul, and let’s wish his family condolences and fast recovery from this tragedy.
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[quote]The Bahraini national who was killed lived in the home, and the militants were using it as a safe house, said the security sources. Another militant was captured in a search of the area following the gun battle.[/quote]
From this quote the situation smells. As I said sometimes things aren’t always as they seem and excpetions can happen. Thank you for helping set the record straight.
My condolances to his family.
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Make sure you have a list of all those Wahhabis who want to have a Salafist political party so that when they start doing terror you know who to round up.
Stock up on rope, too.
Steve
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From what I read, it was an apartment building in which the Bahrainis had rented a flat. On one hand I’m not unhappy to see the beardos getting their just desserts. On the other hand, it doesn’t bode well when kids on a shopping trip get themselves caught in the crossfire.
I don’t give the Kuwaiti police much credit here as they failed to protect an innocent civilian. I almost suppose it to be a case of “Shoot First, Ask Questions Later”. Collateral damage should never be taken lightly.
The situation has been escalating since the first of the year, and just last week word came out of Oman of a huge crackdown that happened a couple of weeks before. Sorry, the Omani Mail Donkey gets out only so often….
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[quote]Islam is actually and truely a religion that demands the middle of the road. The are many Hadith that support this idea. But people, it would seem, go to one extreme or the other. [/quote]
Say this is mixed company, and you could get yourself death threats, Malik.
There may be Hadith that support this view, but there are many tht do not. If you cherry pick the good ones, then you are doing what Irshad does; and she is not looked on highly by theologians.
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As I have said before, I am well aware they prefer to be called Salafists. I prefer the perjorative “Wahhabi” because it more accurately conveys my contempt for them and their murderous ideology.
If the majority of Wahhabis do not advocate violence, then they seem to have made camp in the wrong region of Islam. Wahhabi propaganda is full of violence, violence they act out with the bloodiest enthusiasm.
Steve
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Time to buy the rope and start building the scaffolds.
Steve
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Amid tragedy, defiance: suicide bombers kill up to 50, but fail to deter voters
By Robert Fisk in Baghdad – 31 January 2005
http://news.independent.co.uk/world/fisk/story.jsp?story=606233
http://www.counterpunch.org/fisk01312005.html
Even as the explosions thundered over Baghdad, the people came in their hundreds and then in their thousands. Entire families, crippled old men supported by their sons, children beside them, babies in the arms of their mothers, sisters and aunts and cousins.
That is how the Shia Muslims of Baghdad voted yesterday. They walked quietly to the Martyr Mohamed Bakr Hakim School in Jadriya, without talking, through the car-less streets, the air pressure changing around them as mortars rained down on the US and British embassy compounds and the first of the day’s suicide bombers immolated himself and his victims–most of them Shias–two miles away.
The Kurds voted, too, in their tens of thousands, but the Sunnis–20 per cent of Iraq’s population, whose insurgency was the principal reason for this election–boycotted or were intimidated from the polling stations.
The turnout–estimated at 60 per cent of Iraq’s 15 million registered voters–represented victory and tragedy. For while the Shias voted in their millions with immense courage, the Sunni voice of Iraq remained silent, casting into semi-illegitimacy the national assembly whose existence is supposed to provide America with a political excuse to extricate itself from its “little Vietnam” in the Middle East.
And yes, of course, there was the violence we all expected. There were to be nine suicide bombers in Baghdad–the largest number on a single day anywhere in the Middle East.
An American mercenary and a US soldier were among the first to die in Baghdad when mortars exploded, then more than 20 voters–four slaughtered beside a polling station in Sadr City–were cut down; before dusk came news that an RAF C-130 Hercules transport aircraft had crashed 25 miles north-west of Baghdad, en route to the largely insurgent-held city of Balad, the site of a big US airbase. In all, almost 50 men and women were killed across Iraq.
But how many were killed on the RAF aircraft? Tony Blair’s strangely fearful statement about the election last night acknowledged some dead, but would give no other details. Why not? Were there three British crew dead? Or five? Or many, many more? And were there US passengers? President Bush also referred to US dead, as if it included more than the two killed in the morning. Was there something that might be revealed today, when the “success” of the elections had been polished without a tragedy to tarnish it?
Of course, it was the sight of thousands of Shias, the women in black “hijab” covering, the men in leather jackets or long robes, the children toddling beside them, that took the breath away. If Osama bin Laden had called these elections an apostasy, many did not heed his Wahabi threats. They came to claim their rightful power in the land–that is why Ayatollah Ali al-Sistani, the grand marja of the Shias of Iraq, told them to vote–and woe betide the US and British if they do not get it.
For if this election produces a parliamentary coalition that splits the Shias and turns their largest party into the opposition, then the Sunni insurgency will become a national uprising.
“I came here,” a man told me in Jadriya, “because our grand marja told us voting today was more important than prayer and fasting.” Even the local election agent was close to tears. Taleb Ibrahim admitted to me that he had participated in Saddam’s one-man elections but this day marked the moment when the Shias–after refusing to take revenge on their Baathist oppressors–would show magnanimity.
Even if the Sunnis were boycotting the poll, he said, “there is an old saying that ‘if the father becomes angry, we will have no problems with his sons’. We will make sure that these sons, the Sunnis, have equal rights with us.” At one polling station, I asked the first of the young Iraqi soldiers who were to check us–all, I should add, wore black woollen face masks so that they could never be identified–if he was frightened. “It doesn’t matter,” he said very firmly. “I am ready to die for this day. We have got to vote.” Seven hours later, I talked to him again and now he, too, had the indelible ink on his forefinger. “It’s like you can change your future or your faith,” he said. “We only had military coups and revolutions before. We voted ‘yes’ or ‘yes’. Now we vote for ourselves.”
It was easy to be maudlin about such words, to imbibe the false optimism of the Western television networks and the nonsense about Iraq’s “historic” day–for it will only have been historic if it changes this country, and many fear it will not.
No one I met yesterday believes the insurgency will end. Many thought it would grow more ferocious and the Shias in the polling stations said with one voice that they were also voting to rid Iraq of the Americans, not to legitimise their presence.
On the streets yesterday, the Americans deployed thousands of troops, most of them trying to show some respect for the people. A certain Captain Buchanan from Arkansas even ventured a political thought. “It’s a pity the Sunnis aren’t voting–it’s their loss,” he said. But of course it is also Iraq’s loss and, in a direct way, the Shias’ loss too–and possibly America’s. For without that vital minority component, who will believe in the new parliament or the constitution it is supposed to produce or the next government it is supposed to create?
I asked a Sunni Muslim security guard yesterday what he thought would be the future of his country. He had not voted, of course–in many Sunni cities, only a third of the polling stations opened–but he had thought a lot about the question.
“You cannot give us ‘democracy’ just like this,” he said. “That is one of your Western, foreign dreams. Before, we had Saddam and he was a cruel man and he treated us cruelly. But what will happen after this election is that you will give us lots of little Saddams.”
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Ethan writes “Say this is mixed company, and you could get yourself death threats, Malik.
There may be Hadith that support this view, but there are many tht do not. If you cherry pick the good ones, then you are doing what Irshad does; and she is not looked on highly by theologians. ”
There are many Hadith, many are not valid. Many were created after the time of the Prophet to further other political and religios ideas. That is why one must look to the Hadith and compare them to what is in The Qur’an. A valid Hadith will never contradict The Qur’an.
As to death threats, who cares? Irshad wants to change the religion. She has her own sexual and political reasons for doing so. I do not wish to change the religion, I only wish to see it return to its former glory, not the tarnished image the extremists have tried to force upon us.
Malik
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Steve writes “As I have said before, I am well aware they prefer to be called Salafists. I prefer the perjorative “Wahhabi” because it more accurately conveys my contempt for them and their murderous ideology. ”
You might think it conveys something, but to anyone who deals with the situation it simply conveys that you do not know what you are talking about. “They” dont care what you or anyone else calls them. When I say that the proper term for these people, outside of Saudi Arabia, is Salafists, I am talking about educators and people learned in this field.
Steve writes “If the majority of Wahhabis do not advocate violence, then they seem to have made camp in the wrong region of Islam. Wahhabi propaganda is full of violence, violence they act out with the bloodiest enthusiasm.”
Again, you generalise. You make a rule of this. I guess you must because you do not know the details. The Wahabis in Saudi and the Salafee outside of it, are not united in their goals or their ideas. Some support violence, many do not. It is a gross generalisation to claim that all supporters of Salafism, or even a majority of them, support violence. I have known many in my day and have heard more than a few of them argue passionately against violence. But, I guess you would get that from reading a Bernard Lewis book or an article by Daniel Pipes. They both live for generalisations.
Malik
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Steve writes “Time to buy the rope and start building the scaffolds.
Steve”
If I didnt know better I would say you got that directly from The Turner Diaries!
Malik
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the bahraini that was killed.. was sleeping at that time and woke up at the gun shots.. he opened the window to see what’s happening and they shot him.. not running out down the stairs.. i saw it.. ba3dain baskom ‘3ala6 3ala shur6at ilkuwait.. sij ina ‘3ala6 ina they killed the ba7raini.. bas bl ‘3ala6..kl wa7id ya’3li6.. o alla yr7ima..so sorry walla.. ba3dain hatha yoama.. 7atan loa ga3ed bl ba7rain… ilmuhim.. bas lata’3li6oon..i don’t think ya3ni shur6at ilba7rain ra7 itkoon wayed a7san… ma3a i7tiraami lil kil..
Mahmood Abdul Aziz
Allah Yerhama,
I am so sorry for this great loss. At least the Kuwait Police admitted their mistake immediately, and Insha’allah, we will never see a tragedy like this again.
Thank you for providing witness to his innocence, May he Rest in Peace.
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man this is a real cool way to write in Aranglish! (new word, copyright moi) but I just don’t understand what the hell the numbers mean. I know 7 is the letter “ha” (gutteral) but I’m lost with all the other words you’ve entered so I can’t really make head nor tails of it.
I guess you’re talking about the poor Bahraini guy? Yes they burried him this morning, rest his soul. There is a demonstration scheduled for Thursday afternoon or Friday by most if not all the Universities’ students in front of the Kuwaiti embassy in Manama to denounce the way that the Kuwaiti security forces have handled the situation. Yes, they look as incompetent as their Bahraini counterparts I am sad to say. Just looking at the picture of the pockmarked building is enough to put fear in your heart… no not of being shot by the police (they can’t aim it seem!) but by the sure repetition of terrost attacks in Kuwait.
God be with you, but I’m not holding much hope.. what you should do is first clear your parliament of the bearded folk, and then use them as target practice so your police can actually aim and deliver the bullets where they are supposed to go.
No I’m not getting at Kuwait. I love Kuwait and its people, so don’t even try that “hate q8” bit (that was pre-emtive by the way, something you should DEMAND of your Amir to fire the head of the CID department, if not ask for and get the head of the Ministry of Interior on a plate.)
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The woman is right;
We fed the dogs by starving the lions.
And it’s not so much that Islam found a new way to propogate itself with oil money and new media technology. It’s that Islam found it’s way onto the political stage and garnered greater political attention than it warranted at the expense of real dialogue and learning.
It’s time to admit the mistake an move on! It’s time to come to terms with reality and fix the future
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They arrested them all yesterday and they’re at the Public Prosecutor’s office. The charge is that they’re organising a “political party” which is illegal in Kuwait (as is the case in the rest of the Gulf).
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It doesn’t look that they’re any good at target practice either, if they ever have done that training:
Looks like they close their eyes, point in the general direction of where they want their bullets to fly, select rapid-fire, and squeeze the trigger.
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Mahmood writes “man this is a real cool way to write in Aranglish! (new word, copyright moi) but I just don’t understand what the hell the numbers mean. I know 7 is the letter “ha” (gutteral) but I’m lost with all the other words you’ve entered so I can’t really make head nor tails of it. ”
Yes, go to any chat rooms as you will see Arabic transliterated this way. 7 is for “ha” 3 is for “ayn” They use letters that look something like the Arabic script does. Never seen the 6 used however. Kind of like how I sing sometimes “Allah Ma3ak”
Malik
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What is this world coming to ?
Who is immune from terrorism ?
Are we Arabs still so proud of our monumental achievements ?
For years people who wanted social and political reform, change and development were rounded up and left to rot in prison cells while the religious fanatics grew and infested the whole region.
And now we cry “wolf wolf”.
Too late… and save the crocodile tears.
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Mahmood writes “The Bahraini Salafis are “bedu wannabies”, now how sad is that?”
A wannabe bedu? Sad indeed.
Steve writes “Make sure you have a list of all those Wahhabis who want to have a Salafist political party so that when they start doing terror you know who to round up.”
Sooner or later Steve will catch up with the lingo. Outside of Saudi they are known as Salafee, or Salafists. The term “Wahabi” is not used for anyone outside of Saudi Arabia. Salafists in Bahrain want to have a party based on Salafee. You might also be interested to note that the majority of Salafists do not support violent means either.
Malik
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I respectfully disagree Malik. If their policy is to brand anyone who questions their understanding of Islam or even practices it a bit differently than they do as a heretic, hence in their eyes his/her blood is forfeit, then they do support violence as the only means they know of.
These (whatever you want to call them) Wahabis/Salafis/Salafees/Rats/Morons all deserve to be sequestered in the Empty Quarter and left their to their own devices. Hopefully they’ll either screw each other silly or kill each other off. Call it a service to humanity.
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Mahmood writes “I respectfully disagree Malik. If their policy is to brand anyone who questions their understanding of Islam or even practices it a bit differently than they do as a heretic, hence in their eyes his/her blood is forfeit, then they do support violence as the only means they know of.
These (whatever you want to call them) Wahabis/Salafis/Salafees/Rats/Morons all deserve to be sequestered in the Empty Quarter and left their to their own devices. Hopefully they’ll either screw each other silly or kill each other off. Call it a service to humanity. ”
I do not think this is the case. It is one thing to say that people are heretics. It happens all of the place. “True Believers” always think they have it right and everyone else has it wrong. It is when you believe that this belief gives you the right to comit acts of violence is when you have gone too far. I like the way Tariq Ramadan breaks it down, but I dont have the book here to quote from. He talks about two types of Salafists, I dont remember the titles he gives them. He says one is violent, one non violent, and gives examples.
I think the problem is, and I see it all of the time, that people either think they have to Salafee or that they completely give up the religion. It isnt the case. Islam is actually and truely a religion that demands the middle of the road. The are many Hadith that support this idea. But people, it would seem, go to one extreme or the other.
I am not Salafee, but at the same time I do not celebrate Christmas because I am a Muslim, I also realise the pagan roots of Christmas. One does not have to celebrate Christmas to prove their “moderate” Islamic pedigree. At the same time, one does not have to hate Christians or Jews to prove they are dedicated to their faith.
The middle of the road is a small place and it seems many people go too far either way. I am a middle of the road Muslim, I do not celebrate Christmas, I do not drink. I am a middle of thr road Muslim who is happy being American, listening to music and smoking sheesha. Balance. Some people just cannot get it. You can be 100% western and be 100% Muslim and you do not have to sacrifice your religion or identity to do it.
Malik
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the thing that really annoyed me is that kuwait tv didn’t bother to say what the bahraini victim’s name was… next day, another civilian was killed… a kuwaiti this time.. and the anchor goes on lenghthy condolences to his family and about kuwait never forgetting him, etc…
walla, i was praying for both of them, but just watching the kuwaiti minister of interior and everyone else on the first day speaking about the injured police officers, not caring that much for the non-kuwaiti victim made me really mad…
so becuase he’s not kuwaiti , he isn’t that important… but since he’s a GCC citizen, they don’t call him a terrorist? if he was a hindi, I wonder if he would ever get mentioned…
allah yer7amhum jamee3an…
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Mahmood,
Thanks for the list. I do not like the chat either. What you mostly get in the Arabic rooms are young Arabic kids in the USA speaking “Arabonics” a mix between Arabic and black ghetto speak. Try watching a bunch of kids talk about “Ya Habaibi Niggaz”. Sick.
Malik
Aranglish and Chat etiquette
I detest chat and chatrooms. I really do. To me that activity as a whole is a complete and utter waste of time. I would rather lift the phone and “chat” or visit and “chat” but sitting for hours in front of a computer pecking at keyboards with a weird substitution for a language is not my idea of chat.
As for Aranglish, here’s what I found out:
‘3 = gha = غ
3 = ayn = ع
6 = ta = Ø·
‘6 = dha = ظ
7 = ha = ØÂÂ
‘7 = kha = Ø®
9 = sa = ص
‘9 = dhad = ض
I think that’s it right? I might have confused the 6 and the 9, will update when I get confirmation, or whoever is more literate in Aranglish, please add your comment to this thread.
corrected, the 6s and the 9s were swapped, thanks to Chan’ad for correcting me
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I appologise for jumping to the conclusion that Mahmood was somewhat involved, I didn’t know him and based my assumption on three news reports: one from the BBC, another from CNN and the last was as reported on Radio Bahrain where they didn’t confirm not deny his involvement. In fact if you listen to the news programs again I am sure you will agree with me that they made it sound that Mahmood was involved.
I did continue to pursue other news sources to find out what’s actually going on, until Haitham posted a comment and at the same time the story was corrected on the BBC site, upon which I immediately corrected the post, but in the interest of fairness and also as an apology, you see that the original post was never deleted but the words struck out, that was intentional to show that I too have jumped unfairly into a conclusion and then corrected myself when the facts became clear.
Allah Yer7uma wa yi’3emmed rou7ah aljannah
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I saw a report in Al-Siyassa newspaper (Kuwait) today about what happened to the Bahraini young man. It’s heartwrenching 🙁 According to his Bahraini freinds who were visiting him at the time for Hala February, the poor kid (a 20 year old engineering student at Kuwait U.) was asleep when he heared gunshots @ 8:40 am. He got up and looked out the window to see what was going on. In a second, a special forces sniper shot him in the head thinking he was one of the terrorists who were shooting from the same floor. So sad 🙁 My heartfelt condolences go to his family.
A sad Kuwaiti
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Malik writes:”I do not wish to change the religion, I only wish to see it return to its former glory”
I’m sorry Malik, the days of “former glory” had a [b]huge amount[/b] of negatives that should never be allowed in modern times. In the former “glory days” Uthman was taking massive amounts of money from Beit Al Mal (i.e. government money) and distributing them to his relatives. Ali and Muwayiya went into a vicious war where Muslims were slaughtering Moslems. The Ummayads slaughtered the Shiites, the Abbasids then slaughtered the Ummayads, etc…… Even the “glory” days of Muslims in Al-Andalus (Spain), which we like to glorify so much, are in my view nothing but occupation of other peoples’ lands (how can we champion this as a model and criticize Israel in the same breath?).
It is true that there were alot of great Islamic accomplishments in the fields of science, medicine, etc… in the past, but when people talk about the glory days they mainly focus on the political aspect of the Islamic empire, which in my view should [b]never [/b]be held up as a model that we attempt to emulate or revive in modern times.
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The bahraini guy that got killed was one of my best mates man. He was one the “shilla” wallah 7aram 🙁 . I was really shocked when i heard the news about it. Now god rest his sole bas 7aram 3ala kuwait police. wallah he didn’t deserve it. Did you see the picture of the wall, they were shooting like its somekind of Rambo movie or something. Did they get any kind of trainig or just here’s ur gun shoot! What really anoyied me was the bahraini goverment reaction. Al dahrani sent condolenses to the kuwaiti goverment, this is a joke. They’re the ones who should send us the condolennses for killing one of our brothers wrongfully. Really hmaar
And Mahmood when i read what you said about him possibly being a terrorist i felt hurt, he just was in the wrong place at the wrong time and besides he was my guitar teacher how could he be one.
Allah yer7uma……
[Modified by: Yousifooo (yousifooo) on February 02, 2005 12:17 AM]
Re: Aranglish and Chat etiquette
I’m not an expert in Aranglish, but I think you’ve got the 6 and 9 switched around (as you thought might be the case). Also there is:
2 = hamza = Ø¡
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I stand corrected. thank you very much.
and the apostrophe is used as the dot above a letter (as above)
Terrorism Escalating in Kuwait
he studies engineering in a bahraini university not in KU..and kuwait tv said the bahraini’s name.. i knew his name before even saying it on tv.. so please ya3ni and bas 3ad 3ala il wall ili they were shooting at.. ya3ni now ilterrorists are firing ib rashashat.. taboon ilpolice irakzoon 3ala ilterrorist.. chan kilhom mataw..and a5er shay i would like to say sorry for the ba7raini people..
Terrorism Escalating in Kuwait
no u had it right in the beginning, 6 is ط and 9 is ص