Congratulations Trinidad & Tobago on a well deserved win and good luck at the World Cup.
Hard luck Bahrain on the 1:0 loss. Better luck next time, maybe by then you will be a more cohesive unit and play football instead of volleyball, tennis or whatever the hell you call what you did tonight.
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It’s a good thing I didn’t watch the match then ;)! I had a feeling that something like this would happen! Better Luck Next Time!
Ahmed
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don’t be so hard on them. Soccer is an unpredictable sport and the Bahrain team made an excellent effort and came closer than ever before. Having said that, I’d be curious to see what you could do on a pitch. lol
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ohhh, such a good news thanks God they lost
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The last minute goal was put should have been counted. Hopefuly the Fifa will agree to make a rematch. But Bahrain in general played very well, and hope all the best for them next time.
Waffles
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Well no surprises, Bahrain fails again to deliver in big matches. Am always pessimistic when we play against anyone cause I can’t trust them. To be honest, T&T deserve to go through, we played horribly. Am not sure if we’ll go to the world cup in the next 12 years, who knows but if they call this our golden team, am not sure when again will we have such a team.
For starters, Bahrain needs to win somethin cause we won nothin. The best thing we did was 4th place in the youth world cup in 1989.
Well, life goes on, nothin new. 5eyrah eb ‘3eyrah.
Khalid
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Well they didn’t make it through, the goal SHOULD have been counted, but WASN’T counted, life goes on…
What matters now is that next time they should be more focused instead of playing such a “teela” game.
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Back in 2001 when Bahrain beat kuwait for the first time in a Gulf tournament, some local commentators (and several politicos) attributed that victory to the national euphoria and optimism generated by the Charter and the plebiscite.
Everyone seemed to bask in that win.
I hope those commentators and politica pundits will refrain from relating last night’ s loss to the current state of gloom and confusion engulfing the nation.
Any way, congratulations are due for the players on our national team. 20K BD and a villa are not bad as consolation prizes go.
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Yes football is an unpredictable sport, but good preparation and teamwork lessens the unpredictability. When a team does that it generally wins. What we have had here is far too much pressure on the players. Can you even imagine what’s going through their heads because “we’ve got to win because that will take us through to the World Cup for the first time ever” and now add to that the MUCH more important thing from their human perspective: “I’VE GOT TO WIN TO GET THE BD50,000, THE HOUSE, THE CAR, THE BD1,000 MONTHLY SALARY. I’VE GOT TO WIN TO GET THE BD50,000, THE HOUSE, THE CAR, THE BD1,000 MONTHLY SALARY. I’VE GOT TO WIN TO GET THE BD50,000, THE HOUSE, THE CAR, THE BD1,000 MONTHLY SALARY. I’VE GOT TO WIN TO GET THE BD50,000, THE HOUSE, THE CAR, THE BD1,000 MONTHLY SALARY. I’VE GOT TO WIN TO GET THE BD50,000, THE HOUSE, THE CAR, THE BD1,000 MONTHLY SALARY. I’VE GOT TO WIN TO GET THE BD50,000, THE HOUSE, THE CAR, THE BD1,000 MONTHLY SALARY. I’VE GOT TO WIN TO GET THE BD50,000, THE HOUSE, THE CAR, THE BD1,000 MONTHLY SALARY. I’VE GOT TO WIN TO GET THE BD50,000, THE HOUSE, THE CAR, THE BD1,000 MONTHLY SALARY. I’VE GOT TO WIN TO GET THE BD50,000, THE HOUSE, THE CAR, THE BD1,000 MONTHLY SALARY. I’VE GOT TO WIN TO GET THE BD50,000, THE HOUSE, THE CAR, THE BD1,000 MONTHLY SALARY. I’VE GOT TO WIN TO GET THE BD50,000, THE HOUSE, THE CAR, THE BD1,000 MONTHLY SALARY. I’VE GOT TO WIN TO GET THE BD50,000, THE HOUSE, THE CAR, THE BD1,000 MONTHLY SALARY. I’VE GOT TO WIN TO GET THE BD50,000, THE HOUSE, THE CAR, THE BD1,000 MONTHLY SALARY.” And this is what we end up with, individual plays, balls lobbied almost from the half-line hoping to score, individual plays and almost no team work.
Most times big incentives create the opposite of what they were intended to do. The parliament (thanks Hermi, YOU lost us the game, prick) should have just shut the hell up and let our guys play for the game not for personal enrichment.
Look at how the Trinis game, the ball was glued to their feet, and when they kicked it reached the foot of the intended players without too much hassle and they didn’t even have to look before they kicked because they knew that someone is supposed to be in that space.
As it is, the king through his big heart has given all the players villas and BD20,000 each for the effort in reaching this stage!
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Congrats man! That’s wonderful news and I look forward to watching you team play… as to 2010, man we’ve goin’ to whip your ass but gooood! 🙂
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If Bahrain had qualified it would have been the country with the smallest population ever to get to the World Cup. Don’t be too hard on the players, even getting this far is punching far above their weight.
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To all those who complain about the Bahrain goal that was not counted, my cousin Omar who’s pretty much a soccer fanatic has this to say,
“the goal was correctly disallowed. The FIFA rules state quite clearly that you cannot attempt to dispossess the goalkeeper when he is in the process of releasing the ball. Anyway, given the Uzbek fiasco, I don’t think we are in a position to complain about refereeing…”
Peace!
Ahmed
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Don’t know much about the football side, hate the bloody game!
Now these Trinnie folks known for their strange accents and partaaaay attitude to life had made a special effort to go to Bahrain from Oman. Taking their flags n kids with them, they thought they would be in for a real treat, they didn’t exactly expect much as they didn’t realise their Trinnie brothers were capable of kicking a ball round, and never thought for a minute they could keep off the ganja long enough to stand in an upright position for 90 mins!
Violence is widespread in Trinidad, so they never for a minute thought they would be under threat in Bahrain but…… Some sad guys resorted to tribalism, rocks and insults were thrown at the Trinnie fans.
The kids were shitting themselves and were absolutely terrified until the police surrounded them and had to escort them (for their own safety) from the stadium.
This was pure disgusting behaviour from the Bahraini chaps and I hope me Trinnie chums will arrive back in Oman in one piece!
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As far as incentives go, what was offered to the Bahraini players as ‘rewards’ is nothing compared to what players get paid in Europe. About 5 or 6 of the Bahraini players have gone from being paid 200 dinars a month and having to uphold another job, to playing in Kuwait or Qatar and having a monthly salary in ranges of 4 or 5 thousand dinars (plus indorsment deals like Pepsi). Thats a big jump, which only happened in the last year and a half.
Players in Europe get paid a lot more money, in the ranges of 20-60 thousand pounds….. a WEEK (and thats for the mediocre/average players)…. Rio Ferdinand (Manchester United and England defender) gets paid approx. 120,000 pounds a week, and there are many others who are within the 80-100K pounds a week category. The ‘Royal’ present given to the players is a gift after having played matches for qualifying is 4 years in the making. I think they deserve more, but they can’t get anything because the clubs they play for (excluding our players who play abroad) run mostly on government grants for funding.
It saddens me to say that they played poorly yesterday. We havent won a game since traveling to North Korea in the early stages of qulification. Our passing was horrible and defending was worse. I was surprised it was only a 1 – 0 defeat. And the goal that was disallowed . . . . well, what can you do, this is how the game is played. You never know, we might make it to South Africa in 2010!
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Horrible game for Bahrain. I was there for five hours hoping to cheer the team on to glory, but all I got was a terrible display of football by any standard. The team did well to get this far through some sort of loop-hole in the system, but I don’t think we’ll make it this far again. Congratulations to Trinidadians. Don’t expect anything close to this standard when you’re thrashed by Brazil, France or Germany….
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The only thing going through my mind is,
how much we now miss Mohammad Sal’meen, who was supended. you don’t think having him around would have helped the offense a tad? Or having Abdallah Marzooqi would have helped the defense?
Normally, I’m all for playing hard, and even getting on the referee’s case every once in a while, but you NEVER let your team down. I pin this one on Salmeen and Marzooqi for not keeping themselves in the game. We have a young team, they’re the leaders and Salmeen is the captain. He HAS to keep his head in the game.
I’m not disappointed that we lost, just that we lost on account of bonehead moves.
DIB
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It will be fun. Really glad that we’re now part of the AFC. More matches. Better opponents. No more four year waits between winner takes it all matches. I can’t wait for June, but I’m actually more excited about seeing my beloved national football side fighting to take its place in the 2010 cup. I think after 31 years of failure, mainly due to being screwed by FIFA btw, it will be nice to have ‘a fair go’ for a change.
See you in Germany,
skribe
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The Aussies earnt themselves a cool hundred grand each for last night’s win. As part of their player agreements they receive 30% of the winners purse. The rest goes to the FFA. Money well spent IMHO.
skribe
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maybe next time= Wrong
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BinShehab
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Commiserations. I was looking forward to sharing a double celebration with you. Hopefully we can do it in 2009. Hold on, for the 2010 WC we’re in the same confederation. We’re gonna beat you soooooo baaaaaaad…
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skribe
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Disgusting behaviour by the Bahrain team and the Bahraini supporters!They lost the game and resorted to violence to release their rage on Trinidad and the supporters. Trinis went to support the team but they get hostility and objects thrown at them. Unacceptable. Trinis are warm, loving, friendly people who would never stoop to that level. We came close to World cup back in 1990 and lost to America at a home game. We cried, wiped the tears, and then applauded the AMerican team for a game well played.
Trinidad’s team is full of stars from Premier teams, Dwight York, Stern John, Chris Birchall, Shaka Hisplop and Russell Latapy to name a few. They went out there and played their heart out and got what they deserved which is a chance in the World Cup.
I am from Trinidad and I felt sorry for Bahrain after making it this far, but after I heard about the behaviour of the Bahrainis I think you deserved to lose because you don’t have the disicpline to succeed.
Yes Trinis like to party, yes Trinidad is a very diverse country, and yes Trinidad wanted it and so we made it!!!!
GERMANY 2006 here we come!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Appeal
Bahrain are planning an appeal of the result.
skribe
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Mahmood Sultan. If i remember correctly, he kept on playing till past 40. He was the best keeper in the Gulf before Al Daeyea’s time, and was voted best goalie at Gulf Cup 1992 and 1994 (I think)
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Hmood Sultan actually. And he’s in the papers today for another reason altogether.
Goal magazine: “Glad” Bahrain failed
Goal magazine’s blog is saying it is good for football that Bahrain failed.
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Giff-Blog: I’m Glad Bahrain Didn’t Qualify
11/17/2005 2:53:00 PM
Wednesday produced lots of drama and controversy, as well as a complete 32-team field for the World Cup. And I’m glad Bahrain is not among them.
Thursday, November 17, 2005
I’m not anti-Bahraini, but I’m glad Bahrain didn’t qualify for the World Cup yesterday. In my opinion, they didn’t deserve to qualify based on their play yesterday. They had a horrible game plan: play for the draw. And that’s being generous. They didn’t seem to have any type of game plan at all to be honest.
They didn’t go for the jugular, unless you count Kelvin Jack misjudging that ball in the first half. Even T&T went for the jugular, even hitting the crossbar once.
Bahrain couldn’t string three passes together. They didn’t even try to string three passes together from what I could gather. They seemed to have no concept of clock management. A little possession goes a long way. Look at how the Trini’s were killing the clock at the end. If the Soca Warriors weren’t dinking passes back and forth they were taking the ball to a corner flag and blocking the ball and draining the clock. Is it pretty? No. Hell no. But it’s smart. It’s disciplined. It’s the type of stuff you need to do when you’re simply trying to survive at the end of a match.
The reason I’m glad Bahrain didn’t qualify has nothing to do with their protestations and shoving matches and general poor sportsmanship at the end of the match. That type of stuff has nothing to do with how they actually played the game. They want to go to the World Cup, and they came ever-so-close. I can understand they’ll do what they can to influence the referees or to complain when they think a bad call was made. (For the record, that late “equalizerâ€? was illegal. It was clever. But illegal.) It happens all over the world, and it appears to be the norm, especially in pressure-cooker situations like these. Let’s put on the Bahraini boots for a couple sentences: For nations that have never been to the World Cup, coming this close doesn’t come along very often. You’re going to voice your displeasure when you disagree with a call.
I’ve got no problem with that.
But back to the reason why I’m glad Bahrain didn’t qualify for the World Cup. There are two, actually.
First, the Soca Warriors played a better game. They were better. They are better.
I certainly had my doubts after seeing the first leg. The Trini’s looked bad. Awful. I’d seen them lose before by comfortable margins to the likes of the United States, but in those matches they had played so much better but just simply got beaten by a superior team.
Yet Bahrain still couldn’t beat them in that first leg, or in the second leg.
In my opinion the better team won over two legs. The better team actually won a match!
This ties directly into the other reason I’m glad Bahrain didn’t qualify for the World Cup: Did you see Bahrain’s qualification record in the final group phase of the Asian Football Confederation?
No?
Let me dig it up for you.
They were in Group B. They finished third. They won one match. One match!!? And it came against last place North Korea, who won one match themselves… against Bahrain!
Bahrain got past Uzbekistan in an Asian playoff for the right to face T&T with two draws. Two draws. No victories.
By contrast the Soca Warriors won four matches in the final group phase of CONCACAF qualifying, including a victory over Mexico, a team that may earn one of the top seeds at the World Cup.
Oh, and they beat Bahrain to advance.
Congratulations, not only to Trinidad & Tobago, but to all 32 nations that qualifed for the World Cup in Germany. It’s a long process that tests everyone’s – the players’, the coaches’, the fans’, the referees’ – sanity.
And we’re not finished yet. We still have to draw the groups, and analyze them, and debate which one is the Group of Death, and which one is the Group of Fluff, and which teams will be the surprises, and which will be the duds, and…
–Andrew Giffen
andrew.giffen@goal.com
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Khairha f’ Ghairha!
If it’s any consolation sometimes its better not to qualify then to do so and get crushed …. Or at least that’s how I felt back in 2002, what an utter disaster! By the way does anyone know the name of the former Bahraini goalkeeper? Very talented -that’s coming from a fellow goalie 😉 – seemed ancient though with his distinctive grey/white hair, if I remember right there might have been a “Mubarek” somewhere in his name? A real character, he led the team admirably as a captain too in the 90’s
A Saudi
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I, as a Bahraini, apologize to all Trinis for some of the Bahraini fans agressive and barbaric behavior after the loss. T & T deserved the win, and I wish the team and its fans the best of luck in Germany 2006!
Ahmed
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I second that.