Good grief. I’m off to have a shower after watching this. I just feel dirty.
An Arab man's attempt at bridging the cultural gap and trying to make a difference. Failing a lot. Succeeding once in a while.
Good grief. I’m off to have a shower after watching this. I just feel dirty.
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?!?!??! What the?!? is he for real???? I’m not shocked that he was talking on this subject but the idea of making it one-sided, and that for guys its ok and for women its totally sinful and dangerous?!?! All I know is it’s pretty much a sin whether its for male or female but going to that detail talking about the female side only is just SICKK.. grow up u idiot!
i have a feeling he may have seen too much ‘european’ porn or something.. 😉
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زينجدييالØÂكومة؟؟ Ù…ØÂمود وق٠كلام ÙÂيالسياسة وبدأ يتكلم عنالجنس!! بالله Ø¥ØÂنا ناقصينمواضيع ونصايؠمنشخص يهاجم نص٠الأمة العربية والإسلامية ويØÂلل ويØÂرم على كيÙÂÙ‡ ويهاجم “الأعداء” ÙÂيخطب الجمعة ويطالب بالجهاد ÙˆØÂمل السي٠ولما “بيريز” يزور إسرائيل ما ÙÂتؠولا كلمة ØÂتى لما “بيريز” جلس على Ù†ÙÂس الكرسياللييجلس عليه القرضاويÙÂيبرنامج ” الشريعة والØÂياة”
القرضاوي: أرجو أنتبتعد عنالشاشة ÙÂأنت أسوأ منيتكلم بإسم العروبة والإسلام ولا يمكنك التجرأ على الأمراء والإسرائليينوأمريكا لأنك مجرد عميل وليس لديك إلا الإÙÂتاء ومناقشة القضايا الإجتماعية “المهمة” بصورة تاÙÂهة والصريخ ÙÂيالمؤتمرات بالتØÂريض على الÙÂتنة بينالأمة
Ù…ØÂمود: يعنيلما الØÂكومة تقول لك لا تتكلم، تل٠على مواضيع بايخة؟
Geez, and I thought that masturbation was only supposed to make you go blind…. :ninja:
I can send you a few more amazingly stupid videos…one explaining how women talk before they think (whilst the wise old men think before they talk) and another outlining the rules of wife-beating.
This gives us such a bad name.
It’s funny how he advised women to occupy themselves more efficiently! Shouldn’t he as well be doing something more than just blowing us away with his fataawi? :getlost:
Mahmood, how come this post doesn’t fall under your “brain farts” category?
:pinch:
hmmmm…. wonder who he’s been talking to or what videos he’s been watching to know how women masturbate! he seems to really get into giving details….
seems us westerners are blamed for everything nowadays!
I’m shocked!
This is just another outrageous example of gender discrimination. He only seems to be concerned about the dangers to the female population!
Hasn’t he seen any of the weird contraptions that have been invented to satisfiy the other half of the world’s population. Just a glimpse of some of them is enough to make you turn away in horror at the thought of the irreparable damage they can inflict.
I certainly hope that aljazeera tv will reconsider their use of his services.
Mahmood, are you sure this is not just another attempt by the Zionist entity to make one of the higly respected religious figures look like an asshole. I mean, it has often been claimed that anything coming from MEMRI is not to be trusted at all 😉
Costa: go to Startbucks, maybe you’ll find your life that you lost back again, if you still can’t find it, ask me for directions. I’ll be happy to indicate how you can get a life.
SilverGirl: because The Wheel Is Turning But The Hamster Is Fucking Dead is a much higher level than the Brainfarts category!
abood: Yes, I’ve seen them, but I refrained from giving them air time, this one however just showed how not only stupid this guy is, but how depraved he is too.
tooners: of COURSE you are! Get used to it. But we’ll have no qualms of using your technology without which we will even have difficulty finding Mecca to point our faces to when we pray!
Debby: it also makes hair grow in the centre of your palm(s)!
(eeeeek, caught you checking! :devil: )
Mr. H: of COURSE he’s one sided. But why is he using two thrusting fingers when describing the (what he thinks is) the act of female masturbation? Does that show his preference I wonder?
Why women?!? where is the equalization in Islam between men & women?? is he serious?? :pinch: :shocked:
Lord!
Reminds me with a show they put on MBC, featured a young man and a young lady (20, 18, around), a middle ages man and the show guy… They were talking about gays in the society, their effect on youth and how kids are seduced to convince them to join such groups… etc and then talked about lesbians in the same manner…
My dad & I were shocked of the way they “openly” discussed that, not because of the subject itself but because of the “atmosphere” the whole thing was mentioned in! I mean what I saw on TV was a traditional guy with ‘3etra & 3gal, a girl wearing 3abaya, both of the men wearing the same thing as the boy did… And we talking as if that’s a normal salfa – I mean, a son wouldn’t speak to such father in such a manner at home, so how about in front of the TV cameras… Mum couldn’t believe it as well :biggrin: “Wow! Saudis advanced” dad said when the program finished :tongue:
Cheers!! 😎
You can’t be critisized, can you?
you can’t hear other people’s opinions, can you ?
You just want to attack the government, different types of societities and heads of socieities, any other ideology that differs with you and think you are above criticism.
Don’t worry, I won’t bother you with my comments no more.. Good luck with your case in court..
P.S: I don’t need you to indicate to me how I can get a life, .. If you have nothing to say, then don’t say anything..
Just keep out of making front pages in our local newspapers. Your case is such a waste of space instead of reading about more important issues.
May be Costa-guy was a bit nasty in expressing his view but I do agree with him that this video is not worth writing about.
Nothing personal, but I got used to your “intelligent” posts :wub:
Anonimous, you wrote:
Anything that is written or said by any influential figure in a society is important.
They, and their opinions, are important parts of what establishes the “consencus” of a group of people.
If you disagree with them you should voice your concerns and not bother about the danger of “washing one’s dirty linen in public”.
There are many idiot influential figures, who cares?
Hilarious!!!
I reckon he’s been watching too many twisted porn movies..
Maybe he tried to imitate one of them, found himself in a queer situation, then resorted to projecting it on women in general.. :silly:
No wonder middle eastern societies are so messed up.. it’s the sexual oppression these fart-heads impose..
Useful post invite useful comments whereas uselss post invite useless comments.
Anonymous, you wrote:
Maybe you don’t care but a lot of other people seem to have a lot of respect for him. What other explanation can you give for his positions with Al Jaazeera TV , The European Council on Fatwa and Research and a lot of other institutions?
“All I know is it’s pretty much a sin whether its for male or femaleâ€Â
It’s not a sin for male or female, Mr. H – . If your god didn’t want humans to masturbate, he would have placed their sexual organs someplace out of reach – like in the middle of the back, where it’s difficult to get a grip.
And if your god thought masturbation was a sin, he wouldn’t have programmed so many ‘innocent’ animals to do it naturally: monkeys, apes, gorillas, dolphins, lions, walrus, deer, etc.
Rub-a-dub-dub,
A guy in a tub
Although he was one
He had lots of fun
Without having to pay
For drinks at a nightclub
😉
Sorry, but Qaradawi is a bas****! He is indirectly responsible for the torture and killing of hundreds if not more of innocent Shia that have been murdered worldwide and particularly in Iraq during the past few years. He has done more to cause drifts between Muslims than any other “scholar”.
He went hysterical on three occasions, the last of which was on the special Al-Jazeera program a few days ago after reports indicated that close to 1 million Egyptians had converted to the Shia school of thought to date and an equally staggering number had done the same in African countries like Sudan .
Maybe he should practice what he preaches and live in a more modest home, not the palace he currently lives in in Qatar. Compare that to Ayatollah Sistani who lives in a small house that he doesn’t even own, he pays rent for it every month!
jayjerome, you’re an idiot. What kind of logic is that? So it’s ok to shoot my neighbor cause, hey, God gave me fingers that wrap so nicely around a gun’s trigger. Or, hey, it’s ok to steal my friend’s wallet because, guess what, it’s within my reach!
Take a course in determinism so you can get to grips with the basics of those things you speak so knowledgably on.
What a stupid explanation to a stupid topic!
Hi Costa. I’ve had a good sleep, thanks for asking, but tell me something:
How is this “criticism”?
You’re trying to force your opinion about me blogging about subjects which exclusively interest you, rather than me, on my blog. And then you accuse me that I “changed” my “usual” postings because I was “afraid of the government” – did it no occur to you at all that I was simply interested in highlighting an issue which I felt important and wanted to engender debate on the subject?
And when I do take you to task, you typically have a tantrum!
Costa, I’m not interested in your or anyone else’s approbation. I shall continue to highlight and write about issues which interest me. If you don’t like the issues I raise, I invite you to open a blog yourself. I’ll even provide you with a free space for you to do so. But don’t – please – try to force me to only blog about the issues you feel are important.
Now, let the discussion take place if you don’t mind, replying with
is hardly intelligent or conducive to doing so.
Have a wonderful day.
Anonymous
– I was making a hypothetical, satirical supposition about designing people with sexual organs behind their backs to show how ridiculous it is to define it as a ‘sin’ – a religious term, indicating some god or other condemns it. Mr. Quaradawi , a cleric, wasn’t basing his opinions about masturbation from a medical or scientific or sociological perspective, but on his religious precepts.
My own beliefs about how humans were designed are Darwinian. In that grand panorama of human development, masturbation doesn’t seem to have had any physiologically negative effects – and anyone who tells you it’s a ‘sin’ is simply blowing superstitious smoke up your buttocks.
Hmmm…a moderate! Women should, at most, only be flogged for fornication! :pinch:
jayjerome…. couldn’t agree more!!!
amal,
i was thinking same thing but more along the lines that he’s probably had one of his many wives involved and maybe saw she enjoyed it a little more than being with him!!! imagine the horror! :ninja:
and gosh, what if he caught several of his wives enjoying acts together….
but no.. he probably would have killed them out of jealous rage.
what about the khoumini molesting young underage girls? do you take a shower after you hear this?
والآن، عودة إلى المربع الأول بعد خروج الموضوع عنمساره منالنقاش ØÂول “التمييز بينالرجل والمرأة” إلى جدال تقليديوعقيم ØÂول “الØÂلال والØÂرام”؟؟
Ù…ØÂمود
هذه مدونتك ومساØÂتك الشخصية ولك طبعا مطلق الØÂرية ÙÂياختيار الموضوعات التيتراها مناسبة ولكنأتمنى أنتØÂاÙÂظ على نمط مدونتك المتميزة بطرؠالموضوعات الهادÙÂØ© والمÙÂيدة بعيدا عنالديانات والعقائد والØÂلال والØÂرام.
وبصراØÂØ© لا أرى مبرر للتهكم على ÙÂتوى القرضاويخصوصا وانالÙÂيديو كما يبدو واضØÂا جزء قصير منبرنامج ديني، ربما كانالمتصل بالشيخ امرأة ولذلك كانت الإجابة موجهه للنساء وربما كانللشيخ الرأيذاته بالنسبة للرجال ولكنلم يسأل عنه وربما أدلى برأيه ØÂول الموضوع Ù†ÙÂسه بالنسبة للرجال إلا أنالÙÂيديو لم يعرض الجزء الآخر منالÙÂتوى. ÙÂيكل الØÂالات وطالما أنالØÂقائق غير مكتملة ÙÂأعتقد بأنه منالجائر أننطلق Ø£ØÂكامنا جزاÙÂا دونالاستناد إلى أدلة.
كما أرجو أنتتعامل مع الانتقادات برØÂابة صدر ÙÂكونك “الأب الروØÂيللمدونين” وكونمدونتك تØÂظى بالشعبية والانتشار يضع عليك مسئولية كبيرة ÙÂيانتقاء الموضوعات وتسيير دÙÂØ© الØÂوار بشكل موضوعي.
وكما يقال ÙÂأنالعتاب على قدر المØÂبة
I don’t see anything wrong with masturbation. Geezzs I was born and raised in the states. I guess knowing about how to pleasure myself is sinful. BTW I was a virgin when I got married. I did masturbate before marriage though. I didn’t get flogged either… This is when being a Muslim in the 21 century has to question these old men and how they stretch the Qu ‘ran … A sin… huh stupid old man.
Alaa, most indubitably.
I couldn’t care if the person in question is Shi’i, Sunni, Martian, or Kleptonian following any religion.
One picture that I detest as well and felt just as disgusted seeing was Sistani (was it Sistani?) kissing that boy on the mouth! It might have been innocent, but I would have kissed the boy on the cheek.
Thank you Anon, I shall keep your suggestions under advisement.
I do not agree however that this segment portrayed in the video of the program is incomplete, it is obviously a “Q&A” program and he is replying to a letter he received from one of his viewers asking the question, and his answer could definitely be considered complete so that one could critique it as we have done.
My personal objection does not do with Qaradawi specifically – although I do view him as nothing more than a money grabbing nincompoop (put mildly) – but the whole issue of clerics finding it quite right to interfere in every minute thing of a person’s life. And even more infuriating are the people who actually ask these questions. A program like this could be regarded as symptomatic of the society, and when you consider the number of these programs on air, and the amount of dedicated religious channels, you would forgive me for finding fault with them.
Have you seen Al-Zawra’a for instance? I was flicking through the “new” channels on satellite and felt physically sick by most of them.
As to “selecting appropriate topics owing to the popularity of my blog and I have a responsibility for doing so”, the answer is NO, I will not do that. I will continue to highlight issues I feel important, silly, or worthless.
Mahmood,
Why don’t you post Sistani fatawas too? About Mutaah or inserting in your thing in a woman’s asshole… Why is it only Al-Qaradawi do you pick on Mahmood???
How about you post this for a change:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ky-EkoRURWA
That was hilarious, thanks for sharing!
Explain to me then, anyone, what is the total infatuation with sex and this very specific questions about it by Muslims to their clerics?
I simply do not understand it at all…
People…
Don’t start a discriminatory war here, making Shia-Sunna stuff…
Please Mahmood if things get worse disable comments or do something… :getlost:
Please people be nice & open minded! Even we do say stuff that are understood wrongly by others!
Disabling comments won’t fix what’s wrong Qassim. Talking about it and trying to reach a conclusion might.
It wasn’t Ayatollah Sistani.
“Well”, wouldn’t you be able to make better use of your time wiring an IED or blowing up some innocent civilians? Ayatollah Sistani is a jurist and as a jurist he has to answer all types of questions. Does your tiny brain actually believe that if someone came to him and asked him a question about, say, intercourse, he should say “sorry dudes, ask someone else”!
The difference between Ayatollahs like Sistani and this joke of a scholar called Qaradawi whose face I’m sure you’ve realized has taken a completely different form following his latest outbursts, is that the former have a methodology inherited from the Prophet’s household when it comes to issuing fatwas. Sistani isn’t going to roll up his sleeves, run in the street and cry “Jihad” like oh so many other scholars on the other side.
>>jayjerome :…effects – and anyone who tells you it’s a ‘sin’ is simply blowing superstitious smoke up your buttocks.
When a government says “so and so is antisocial behavior”, are they blowing smoke up your buttocks? No, they’re enforcing a system to ensure the well-being of society. Religion does the same, only it uses different terms.
The Prophet’s Household may God be pleased with them all are all far away from the teachings of Al-Sistani and his likes. Why don’t we see Al-Sistani showing up on TV or talking to his followers like Al-Qaradawi does. Maybe they would need translation for the great Ayotoallah…
ACK!
Right, im off to make myself “busy” in this life… and by the looks of it continue being “busy” in the next, while u guys continue wanking off!
How come they dont censor what these guys say???
http://www.sunna.info/qardawi/
As whack as that clip was, something very important was included.
Qaradawi said very clearly that ‘honor killings’ were not permissible under Islam. It’s a pity that that got buried under the nonsense.
THAT part of the clip should be widely distributed.
So, what’s new? Here again are some nerdy, low-lying, bottom-crawling and scum-eating creatures going to extraordinary length in order to bad-mouth a summit. This whole thing is out of context. But, what does it matter in the food chain when a sheep farts as she is overwhelmed! ما يهم الذيب ضراط العنز
So, what’s new? Here again are some nerdy, low-lying, bottom-crawling and scum-eating creatures going to extraordinary length in order to bad-mouth a summit. This whole thing is out of context. But, what does it matter in the food chain when a sheep farts as she is overwhelmed! ما يهم الذيب ضراط العنز
http://www.arabistan.org/55_2006/sheaat_aliraq11.htm
Look how you became a “source of inspiration” to other bahraini bloggers!
And then people wonder why we the westerners tend to think that Muslims are (how to put it nicely?) ummm… different.
:dizzy:
“When a government says “so and so is antisocial behaviorâ€Â, are they blowing smoke up your buttocks? No, they’re enforcing a system to ensure the well-being of society.â€Â
That depends on what they define as ‘antisocial.’ If it’s behavior that harms others, like burning down your neighbor’s house, or shooting at the firemen who come to douse the flames, or putting poison in the water supply, or painting graffiti on the walls of public buildings – then governments have a responsibility to stop those kinds of ‘antisocial’ behavior. But if they define victimless’ acts like smoking or drinking wine or betting on sporting events or eating pork or buying ‘sex toys’ or having consensual sex with other adults as antisocial — then they’re not only blowing smoke up your buttocks, they’re taking away your liberty at the same time.
“Religion does the same, only it uses different terms.â€Â
Does the same, but worse. The different terms are words like sin and heresy and sacrilege – which merely describe deviations from a superstitious norm – but end up getting people maligned, murdered and massacred, as the recent sectarian insanity in the world attests.
>>jayjerome: …
Fair enough, I actually partly agree with that, but still think that there’s more often than not a reason that religion forbids those victimless acts. 14 centuries ago, the Arabs laughed at the Prophet’s request that they bury their clipped nails instead of leaving them lying around on the ground; a few months ago I read a scientist’s piece on how a chicken that digests human finger nails may actually develop cancer.
And to whoever said Sistani has nothing whatsoever to do with the Prophet’s household, you might need to look into getting your finger out of your a**.
Islam has more rules regarding sexuality than any other religion, even going so far as to promote strict (or overwhelming, depending on the tasfir) dress codes to suppress it.
Without a natural expression of sexuality being ‘halal’, it’s not surprising that nutcases control the discussion.
In short – it’s like learning sex from the schoolyard and rumours, not from science or healthy frank discussion.
Mahmood, this is a marketing move.:sleeping: Qaradawi just aquired exclusive rights for dildos in the Middle East:biggrin:. And after this publicity, the sale of dildos is going wild in the entire region, especially areas under the Taliban.:ninja:
What is that buzzzzing sound coming from all burqas all of a sudden… :wub:
Anon:
And 14 centuries later I can’t help but laugh and shake my head at this ludicrous suggestion of yours.
Where did you get this? Do you have any references? I would like to also read your references to the chickens, and would like to propose my own experiment there: let’s collect some clipped nails, powder them and feed them to chickens and see what happens… under medical supervision of course and I’ll even vlog the whole process!
Again, what a load of codswallop. As if the Prophet didn’t have anything better to do than go to this minute detail to tell people what to do with their clipped nails.
:w00t: :whistle:
Now I know where I got hairy palms and bad eyesight from….. :blush: :biggrin: :tongue:
Thanks M for tha hilarious video. Jeez makes you wonder huh!
Let us assume Qawadari is correct – after all he is in some form of authority here. Then either the religion is wrong in which case we have been wasting our time for the last 1400 years and we should be allowed to change to another, more sympathetic faith and be permitted to stop brainwashing our children, or, we should just accept that most girls are going to go to hell, in which case why should we follow the religion in the first place.
If Qawadari is wrong then what else is he wrong about, and maybe this also marks the end of the faith that we have been led ( brainwashed ) to believe in these past 14 centuries.
Either way this signals the beginning of the end or at the least a turning point and maybe we will now at long last be permitted to discuss the viablity of such a faith in the context of the modern age.
a cause or religion should not be judged by the behaviour and the speeches of those who claim to carry its banner, even if they are considered an authority by many.
when you start to feel that they are talking nonsense, its a reminder to use your own brain to judge what is right and what is wrong.
That’s exactly the point – what is right and wrong is being dictated to us from some ancient texts and word of mouth sayings from 14 centuries ago, we are not allowed to judge for ourselves, not allowed to even question the wisdom of such dictates and we are being socially obliged to pass on the dictates to our own children even if we have doubts as to their validity.
Do you have any links to where the faith is openly and freely discussed without the threat of blasphemy and its relevance put into context of a modern age with educated believers? I would love to read them.
When you know someone is saying something ludicrous and not factual, why don’t you Muslims stand up to what is right, just, and the truth? You don’t stand up. You let your Muslims brothers/sisters be suicidal bomber and the like. You never go public and say what they did is wrong. Except for Mahmoud, you are all cowardly men.
>>Again, what a load of codswallop. As if the Prophet didn’t have anything better to do than go to this minute detail to tell people what to do with their clipped nails.
Why bother; your post is ludicrous on so many levels that I don’t know where to start. You obviously have no clue whatsoever about arguing academically, so I’ll just let you have the pleasure of retaining that swift ego-top-up that’ll probably gain the affection of your fanboys.
Or, you can elevate the conversation and spend a little time educating me and others about the errors you indicate and thus earn Heavenly points in defending the faith and correcting wrongs.
Could you please take the time to do so? I – and others I am sure – would be highly appreciative. Seriously. Can you therefor produce those references to elucidate the points you raise further?
I am ready to eat my much needed humble pie, and I promise you I shall do so on video which I will share with the world.
Can you support your arguments with references now please?
OK Mahmood – create a blog topic and give it the heading ” Re evaluating the faith for the 21st Century” and open up the discussion on why we force our children into the faith instead of letting them chose when they are old enough to understand, and why we prevent them from changing when they they are older and no agree with it.
You will be surprised.
There was an excellent Profile section in Al-Waqt recently where they featured the work of
Ahmed Al-HujairiAli Al Jallawi about the Baha’is which is a faith that stipulates that children cannot choose what religion they wish to follow until they reach 21!From the brief things I have read about them, they seem to be very tolerant of other teachings and that is their central theme. It’s a religion worthy of consideration, or at least Islam should be interpreted with the same tolerant view.
Give them fire power and they will have no resprt to being human-bombs, e.g Hizballa. The reason we never go public and say that our human super bombs are wrong is that because we think they are right, not wrong.
In the reality which we perceive they are the only right thing about Arabs and Muslims these days.
You brag about Mahmood! But that’s only because you are blind to the fact that he is a colossal misnomer who has lost his head and who never learned to respect any thing about his own people and who is evidently stunned by western “things”, including in things that are politically not right to say in public.
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Mussaab,
You tell an untruth, you are not a Muslim. You have attached yourself to a peaceful religion and added fanaticism. May Allah have mercy on your soul. ameen
Anony in # 61,
You just revealed that you are no respect-worthy than another bird of the same feather as mahmood, as described in # 60 above.
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number 55 thinks people are responsible for the behaviour of others just because they happen to share the same religion.
and
Mussaaaab thinks he speaks for all muslims when he says how “”WE” feel and what “WE” think.
as human beings, before anything else, we are responsible for own actions only, and we can only be held responsible for something we support.
all Muslims don’t think the same, and every Muslim doesn’t have to make a public statement condemning evil acts or exalting wondrous acts everytime someone who shares our faith decides to do something.
i don’t particular remember seeing a public statement by “anony number 55” denouncing what his president did to Iraqis. does that make him duplicituous?
Does anyone think that it would be a good thing if Muslims were permitted to embrace Christianity, without fear of retribution?
I thought it was worth posting. Education and entertainment in one film. What I don’t understand is how he can say masturbation is more dangerous for women than men.
Hasn’t he ever seen the way Saudis drive here?!
#64 you pose an interesting question.
if someone felt strongly enough that they no longer wanted to be muslim and wanted to embrace christianity, that would mean they did not take as gospel everything in islam, and therefore to them it wouldn’t be a sin to change religions and their fear would not be from the teachings (since they would no longer be relevant),. the only fear they might then feel would be from being judged by people. does that matter?
are you saying that you think there are many people out there who would change if they were not afraid they would be targeted by religious extremists which would endanger their lives, and that although their belief in their new religion is strong enough for them to shed the old, it is not strong enough for them to denounce it?
is it fear of earthly retribution that is holding some people back?
and, if people wanted to change their religion, would they have to announce it to all and sundry anyway? isn’t religion a private matter between a human and their God? does it have to be public? didn’t the early muslims keep their religion a secret initially until they were of enough number to defend themselves?
Mahmood
Just a quick note about your mention (comment 59) of the piece about Baha’is in Al Waqt – actually it was written by Ali Al Jallawi (though this wasn’t clear in the newspaper).
Thanks very much for the correction. Although I met him with you the other night, and I have conversed a couple of times with Ali via email, Ahmed’s name is what stuck in my mind… must be approaching senility!
I just want to clarify one thing here. We all jumped to conclusions. Listen carefully to what he is saying. He is just stating, that it is dangerous for a woman to masturbate by inserting objects into her vagina, that may cause her hymen to break, and as we all know how akward this matter is, it will cause her future husband to doubt her virginity. Whereas if a man masturbated, you couldnt accuse him of having sex, because of his hymen missing?
Please listen carefully, and note the important points he is saying. These men are wiser than us, by a million times. Where does any of you, who has accused him of this and that, stand in Islam? What is your position in Islam?
Last I checked when I masturbate, I don’t insert anything in my vagina. The (clitoris) is on the exterior of the vagina. In order for women to have an organism, she must massage the (clit.) Do you not know human anatomy?
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I think you missed a few HA, HA’s there. Not forgetting the compulsory HEE, HEE, GET OUTTA HERE and the immortal “NURSE, INCREASE THIS MAN’S MEDICATION IMMEDIATELY”.
Lets be reasonable and not underestimated his integrity. I am sure any international corporation would love to have him on the pay-roll! Imagine how much man kind could achieve with him at the helm of human development! For example if he worked for NASA then they would not only have reached the moon by now but they would be beyond Mars. I mean the guy is a genius. I am sure he is spreading the message not only in the Middle East but from Europe to Asia. All around the World he is achieving tremendous results, Sales of Masturbation utensils dropped 50% globally and his contribution to the quality of peoples daily life’s is un accountable. YES RIGHT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
What a wasted life when total idiots like that get on the pay-roll and who is paying his salary anyway? Its not surprising the Middle East gets a bad rap in the rest of the world the guy is an embarrassment……Can you imagine working in his house – hold? He is a stereo type house made beater and abuser. I think when social services improve in the Middle East schizophrenics like that will be recognized and put on anti depressants OR LOCKED UP………..
Gen, do you not have a G-spot in your vagina? Were you born without one? If there was no pleasure for a woman by having things inserted in her vagina, then why do sex toys exist? Why do we have dildos? And vibrators? G-spot massagers? And not to forget, their sexual desire for their partners?
Mahmood, as wise as you are my brother, could you valuate yourself next to a cleric, in Islam?
What he said is completely correct, and before we jump to conclusions, we must look at the points he is making. If a virgin inserted something into her vagina, wouldnt you agree, that she could end up tearing her hymen? And then have accusations against her by her future husband that she wasnt a virgin when he married her? And she will be accused of adultrey? As a man with daughters, i ask you to ask yourself the same question. God forbid, your daughter did such an act, and when she gets married, and her husband complains that she isnt a virgin, how would you react? You would try to find out how it happened. And how easy will it be for her to tell you “dad, i masturbated by inserting things into myself”.
I am sure you are wise enough to realise the situation. Our society sees the hymen as a sign of virginity, and purity. I am with you, it could break while playing sports, or a woman can be born without it, but will society accept the logic?
Im only trying to make an open minded discussion here, and i ask you to look at the situation from different aspects.
Salman, your position on things are so far away from mine that I do not wish to enter into a debate with you.
As you are in an environment different from home at the moment, I highly encourage you to mingle with the British people and learn from them a little of their way of life and thinking even if you do not subscribe to them. That will open up new thought processes that might benefit you.
And while you are studying there, I highly advise you to take a couple of courses in critical thinking too.
Salman,
You have been reading to much on the Internet. Personal experience I find dictates a closer path to what actually works. I have never had a G-Spot organism. The point I was trying to make, there is more than one school of thought. I’ll not post about this anymore. For myself, I have stepped over the normal bounds of comfort.
Gen
The G Spot is an area of tissue surrounding the female urethra and running along the roof of the vagina, postulated to be erectile and to enhance sexual arousal.
Its not inside dar……thats why guys give head…dam what part are you eating…….
If as virgina was your mouth then the g spot would be your nose…do you know what I mean?
Mahmood, i am a very much westernised person, since childhood. I have always looked at matters from every aspect and angle possible. I am looking at the situation from both aspects. They way they think here, is completely different to our ways, and i respect their views, and ours. Their way of life is different, and so is ours. We have a different culture than theirs, and i respect all cultures. But we also have Islam, with rules which we are obliged to follow, and so do they. And whether they choose to do so, or not do so, is a personal decision upto each individual.
In our society, we can all accept, that if a woman had sexual intercourse out of marriage, and once the news spreads(which really isnt hard to happen), she would be in alot of trouble, and, the news will spread quickly, and she will bring shame to her family.
Lets say she didnt have sexual intercourse before meeting her husband, and having sex with him for the first time in her life, but, she did masturbate before meeting him, and lost her hymen by inserting her fingers into herself, or a sex toy. What are the chances of her husband trusting her when she will just say “it broke while i masturbated before meeting you”?
Remember, in our society, the hymen is regarded as her sign of honour, and that she has not commited adultery.
I am very much more open minded than the way our society thinks. But the point the respectable cleric was making, is true. Her husband might accuse her of commiting adultery, and ofcourse he wont shut up about it, and this will only bring shame to her family. Whether she did lose it by masturbating, or was born without one even, how are you going to convince him? I only speak of the reality. And remember, think Bahrain, how small it is. Someone farts in Muharraq, half or Riffa will find out whithin 2mins.
I respect your views on this point Mahmood, but we have to look towards the reality that we live in. Thank you for sparing some of your time to read my posts.
Regards
Gen,
I am speaking of personal experience about the G-spot, and not something i read off the internet. And i also know, that not all women can orgasm from G-spot stimulation. We arent all created the same.
For many of you who might not know, a clitoral orgasm is different from a G-spot orgasm.
Salman, how old are you?
why would she want to marry such an idiot anyway??!!!
instead of educating girls on how to behave so their husbands will not disbelieve them when they tell the truth, educate the men so that they will know how to have a relationship based on trust, and educate your family so that neither your daughter nor your son would even consider marrying someone they don’t know, love and trust already, and then all of the above will become irrelevant.
no you are not!!
He might be westernised, this is immaterial. What is, is that he equates his mother’s and sisters’ honour with a piece of useless skin.
There is hope; however, the twit can’t be more than 22 years old, so maybe life will thump him on the head to re-align his brain cells. At least I do hope that this will be the case, for his sake.
Agreed, its the men we should be educating not the women. Can you imagine valueing a women based upon her genitals. Thats a very shallow value system. I respect everyones opinion, but to me it means that we have a total lack of respect for women. Oh your not a virgin! then your trash…its silly , are you saying virgins are better then non-virgins. It like racism, judging people by there race or culture. God is the one to judge not us. What human values are those! open your legs love so i can check out your private parts makesure there up to my standards. Did anyone ever think about Human Values and human dignerty.
So what we are talking about is culture not religion. And culture well look at our country and what we have done with it! maybe we should be learning from better mentors. We leave garbage everywhere and our major city is like a village…..Can we move forward and achieve greatness as a nation…yes i think we can in another 1000 years…
“WE” don’t leave garbage everywhere. some among us do, as there are litterbugs in every country. actually more people would describe our country as “clean” than you would expect.
yes, when more of us start thinking before deciding what their opinion is and stop waiting for someone else to dictate what to think. hopefully, that day will not be far..
Sorry, did not mean to insult you about the garbage and I agree I have seen places that have more garbage, however those countries are particularly poor with exploding birthrates and shortages of basic infrastructure like, roads, electricity and access to clean drinking water.
Mahmood, you are right my brother. That useless piece of skin does not equate the honour of a girl. And that is the way i think of it too. But i speak of our society. Sexual education does not exist in the boys schools syllabus. I studied in a private school, where by 8th grade, we started learning human anatomy in detail. When i moved to government school, and i had to start from 7th grade once again, untill i graduated, we were given no sexual education. There was a little bit about how a child is concieved in the sience lesson of 8th grade, but it was not even taught.
And i am with “I SEND THIS TO JAPAN’ on every word that he says. A woman’s honour must not be valued as it is today, by the existance of her hymen. But our society, does not think that way. We are only a minority. I am not stating our if the virginity of a person makes them respectable or not, and i have no right to judge them.
But, are the men, in our society, educated enough to accept this logic?
I hope, that some sexual education lectures are conducted nation wide, to address this matter, and to take the backwards thinking about it out of peoples minds.
Im afraid that about 95% of the females in Bahrain, were raised to believe that their hymen is their sign of honour. Whether anyone likes it, its the truth. You can go and ask any girl you want.
I hope this all changes someday.
Regards
personally, I have not travelled to any countries like the ones you describe, and i agree that things could be better here, especially the beaches, etc. but I have seen a lot more dirt in the south side of Washington D.C. and in the poorer parts of New York and even a couple of times in the UK. none of those places have exploding birth rates and they do have roads, electricity and clean water in those places!! and i’m not putting those places down, i’s just saying there is the clean, the cleaner and the dirty everywhere, and we are not that bad actually, even though i’ll be the first to admit nothing bugs me more than someone rolling down the window of a driving car and chucking out a tissue or a wrapper.
Salman,
the problem is when people say it’s not me, it is others who think like this and we have to accommodate them even though they are wrong.
if everyone accommodates, nothing changes. teach your daughter and more importantly your son differently and be a good role model in your own actions and your speech and he will grow up to be a decent man who respects women and she will end up choosing a decent man she can trust.
it should, but you know what? they can teach all year, if the boys see or hear otherwise at home, it will all go down the drain. which is why so many immigrants living in Europe are more close-minded than their families are back home, since they are still stuck in a time-warp from when they left and cling to everything they left behind, while others have long moved on..
You certainly aren’t because you’re flip flopping like a dying fish. You’re speaking what you has been drilled into you without even bothering to think before you open you mouth.
So do me a favour and drop the “royal We” bullshit. Society has changed dramatically, but that change certainly bypassed where ever it is you come from, and that “my friend” is not an insult, it is an invitation to STOP and before hitting the keyboard or opening your mouth to think thoroughly about what you have said in your imbecilic comments above.
You didn’t declare your age yet son, I just want to know if there is enough time left in your life for salvation. So it’s out of concern that I ask, you see.
Salman, you wrote:
I don’t know you so this question will be hypothetical: If you heard your 17 year old sister was going out with a group of British friends of both sexes or, she had been been brought home from work or school by a male British colleague or friend, what would be your reaction?
What would you think? Would you consider that an issue at all or, would your concern for the honour of your family and respect of your cultural and religious rules tell you to do something to stop it?
CWT’s comment about immigrants in Europe holding on to religious doctrines and cultural values from their own background is very true, even for people that were born here.
Women and their relationship with the world around them are often at the centre of clashes resulting from these different cultures. My 18 year old son certainly would not dare invite a Muslim girl out for fear of being beaten up by her family or friends.
The big difference lies in the idea of what is more important: The honour of the family and tribe or, the respect of each individual, male or female, to control their own destiny.
Good point……..your talking a bout a tribul system within your culture…………….its just racism and it happens world over…its nothing more then that, we can try to make reason out of it but that is the excuse for prejerdise to exist.
Its natural for people to have fear of something or someone they do not know. Thats why sociaties have to develop ,,,,,,,,
1st of all Hello,
What you people dont know is that, he is talking the right thing, masturbating is really dangerous, islam has nothing to hide, remember the prophet used to talk about intercourse.
Islam is a religion of lightening, it teaches you everything.
somebody has to talk about masturbation & its effects…
Remember, ALLAH will not look at the transgressors on the day of judgement…
as far as i know, it is only really dangerous to the fragile insecure male ego (such as the one you have displayed) since most women enjoy their rabbit more consistently than they enjoy their husbands, lovers.
salman and touqeer .. please do not insult arab and moslem men by making them all look bad in order for you to feel better about your own inexperience and inability. oh .. and you may want to check out what islam says about faking orga**m’s … because that may be happeneing to you in your own beds …
I SEND THIS TO JAPAN could you please describe the location of the G-spot again in greater detail using centimeters from some reference point.
Could I use a shorter name for you? Something shorter than a male orgasm please.
Also, if a man has a high frequency tremor in his penis, does that help? Some are lucky. I have a five-speed transmission without using any battery power. Mahmood is world famous in this area by the way.
And yes it is absolutely unreasonable at least for me, to judge a woman by her having her hyman or not, but we must remember that this is a cultural issue, making it important for those who believe in it. This belief is present in quite a few cultures and goes back many hundreds of years. It was an easy way “to measure” the value of women during the days a very long time ago when they were bought and sold and when men were looked at very unequally compared to women to put it mildly. What I think is needed is for Islamic leaders to get together and decide what interpretations and value systems need to be adjusted for a time that changed a lot since 1400 years ago. And educate people. Education is key.
Thanks and best regards,
Vic
sounds to me like you’re the one who doesn’t know!!!
God gave us brains, and as far as i’m concerned it’s a SIN to waste them…
Hello again,
I didnt talk just about women masturbation, but of men also, dont misunderstand me
And mrs. jedi i didnt get the thing about faking orgasms…please explain…
Touq1eer, I would like to exchange emails about basic religious beliefs in Shia Islam out of personal interest if I may. Mahmood mentioned on his blog to me that he does not want me asking basic Islam-realated information on his blog. Makes sense since he wants to stick to his topic. If you are wiling to correspond my email is vicspencer@charter.net.
About faking orgasms – your question: some women fake the grunts, vocal responses and body movements during having sex, as if they were having a real orgasm, but they are really not having one. It is done to make the man feel better and more aroused. It is very often done if a man goes with a prostitute to have sex. Less often in ordinary sexual relationships. Men who are relatively inexperienced and uneducated about this subject could not tell the difference.
Best regards,
Vic
doc spencer, u r going into VERY dangerous territory here. as a friend, my advice is to stay out of this one .. you are not doing yourself any favors! at all!
and for all of you who talk about the importance of hymens, has anyone told you about the surgeries in egypt? and if inserting things into orfices are not islamically compliant, then can someone please explain to me why some sort of underage male homosexuality is accepted in out socieities but not hetrosexuality? And why are there different standards for male and female sexual abuse claims?
dont confuse religion with culture …
JJ, explain to me why that territory is dangerous. He asked a question and got a good answer.
Best regards,
Vic
he is definetly talking,
do u know that according to one hadith of bukhari the prophet (pbuh)…stated that there are more than 1 type of jihad
the best & more pleasing to Allah is that of controlling ones sexual desires, rather than the jihad of fighting.
simply put mental jihad is far more superior in ajar than physical jihad
docspencer,
not sure it is a good answer, or an accurate one. sounds to me like a relativley uninformed one … but to go into why would involve getting into a very delicate discussion which i am not comfortable having. would suggest that you watch when harry met sally though.
Well, give him a better answer, so that he knows what it means! And he can go and see Harry met Sally. Good movie!
Vic
Touqeer, very true. What is ajar?
Vic
jasra jedi,
The culture of a group of people is formed by several factors and religion is one of them. How big a role it plays depends on the iinfluence people think it should be allowed to have on their daily life.
Religious scholars have always had an insatiable urge to control their followers’ sexual desires with various suggestions on how to subdue the undesirable or forbidden variants. Some even go to the extent of prescribing death as a remedy!
So, in my opinion, culture and religion cannot be separated.
Ajar is like a reward from Allah fro any good deed, not a physical reward, but a spiritual one.
if you do a good deed, your account is added with an ajar, you cannot get a numerical value of ajar.
Account – A book in which your daily doings are written, by angels on your shoulders (both – left one writes bad deeds & right one writes good deeds)
your account will be weighed if the weight of good is more u are relaxed, but if weight of bad is more then that happens what Allah wills for U.
ajar is like blessing also, which makes brings u nearer to Allah
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Apart from the topic above…
I ll give u an example of the will power of Allah
according to a hadith of bukhari…Prophet Mohammed PBUH stated that
he once saw a non-muslim prostitute providing water to a thirsty dog, next he said that he saw this women in Heaven.
1 – What we understood from this is that He (Allah) does what ever he wills.
2 – Prostitution even though causes Allah angry, this act was rewarded in such a nice manner (Will of Allah)
Another hadith…
Allah apostle once saw a man pick a stone the middle of the path & keep it on the side, so that nobody gets hurt, this act was also rewarded, the prophet PBUH saw this person in Heaven.
This act was rewarded because he performed this act from his heart…meaning that Allah will knows what is in Your Heart.
Touqeer, that was very good and informative. Thank you. So Allah (Arabic)/God (English) is very forgiving, and it seems that He values more what you have become and what you did last. Am I correct?, And can we continue this via email so that we do not just get thrown off this blog?
Was my explanation a problem for you above? I don’t know why JJ felt that I was entering a dangerous territory by answering it. Do you know?
Best regards,
Vic
1st, i am not a scholar
2nd for Jasra Jedi titled (milter) “Some even go to the extent of prescribing death as a remedy” i’d like to comment that islam has forbidden to commit suicide, cause Allah has given this life to us & has the right to take it, anyu 1 commiting suicide has commited 1 of the greatest sins & will not be forgiven, if 1 is poor it is not because he is poor, it is because Allah is testing him whether he remembers Allah in the time of poverty, most of the prophets, mainly (Muhammed PBUH), was poor too, but did he commit suicide, NO, cause his trust in Allah cannot be described.
It is even a sin to kill some 1 out of mercy.
1 quran verse has this to say : “he who has killed a believer (muslim) delibratly, will suffer the hell fire” not translated accordingly
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For Mr. Vic :
“He values more what you have become and what you did last” – cannot say this as right, cause tit is the wish of Allah to order which good to be taken & which NOT to be taken, the good done just to show people, will never be accepted, Allah knows what is hidden (in hearts, in sky, in earth) & what is revealed respectively.
docspencer, you are getting very irritating and parasitic.
What utter rubbish.
Where do you get your religious education from boy? Hello magazine? If we believe, even for a second, your childish interpretation of religion, we might as well pack our bags and fight for the top step at some mosque’s door.
I’ll take the one on the left please! :devil:
i dont know what u mean by saying
“What utter rubbish.
1 – Where do you get your religious education from boy? Hello magazine? If we believe, even for a second, your childish interpretation of religion, we might as well pack our bags and fight for the top step at some mosque’s door”
2 – “cause tit is the wish of Allah to order which good to be taken & which NOT to be taken” – typing mistake
Mr. Mahmood, i dont know U, explain me where i am wrong.
touqeer,
I wasn’t actually talking about suicide. I was talking about earthly scholars’ opinion about what would be an appropiate punishment in this life on earth for people who don’t follow the straight line when it comes to sexual habits.
Take for instance what “The eminent Muslim scholar Sheikh Yusuf Al-Qaradawi” has to say about this:
I know that verse about killing a believer. It’s 4:93. But that makes us kuffars a little bit nervous. Why does it make a distinction between believers and non-believers?
Mahmood:
Mahmood, what do you mean? I don’t understand.
You are just too nice to be insulting.
Am I wrong?
Vic
Re: Touqeers 110:
Mahmood, why do you need to be so damn insulting to this guy? If you disagree, why don’t you respond to him in a mature, adult manner? Whatever you think his opinion is, no one deserves such insulting treatment.
Religion is important to him. He has that right. But you do not have the right to redicule him for it.
Touqeer:
Toqeer, my question is the same as Milter’s to a great degree. Your quote applies to Muslims only. I am a Christian, and I am finding that we do have a lot in common. But would it be OK for a Muslim to kill a non-Muslim? I think it is fundamental in both of our beliefs that Allah (God) would never be unfair. That’s what bothers me in your quote.
Would you accept the idea that we, Muslims, Christians and Jews, being of the religions that originated from Abraham, we should all be able to live together in peace, be friends if we like each other except for the religious difference, despite the fact that there may be some differences among us in religion or in other things?
What do you think? I do appreciate your honest and polite answers by the way. Thank you.
Best regards,
Vic
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Is just one incident.
Do remember, if you would, that you are a guest here and as such it is not your place to police it, create rules, or act as if you own the place. Concern yourself with yourself and your ideas, not anyone elses and having an open forum doesn’t mean that you have to respond to just about every single comment entered. You have your own site/blog, find other creative ways to entice visitors to engender debate other than your customary whine of “because Mahmood might not like it email me”.
Clear enough for you?
“I am a Christian, and I am finding that we do have a lot in common. But would it be OK for a Muslim to kill a non-Muslim?”
U have got me totally wrong, 1st Islam does not allow killing of any living being, whatso ever be the reason.
2nd in one hadith, Prophet Muhammed PBUH, stated that there will come a time when even a stones & trees will shout out loud “Hey muslim there is a jew hiding behind me come & kill him”, this according to the hadith of Bukhari, the one thing that Allah hates the most is a jew.
Reason : In time of prophet Musa (AS) & his brother Harun (AS), Musa AS called people to follow him to the true path, the path of Allah, & they followed, but when they saw other people bow down to fake gods (idols), they asked Musa AS to provide them with a god the can see & worship, since Musa AS faith could not allow that he had not option but to leave them, Musa AS then had to leave these people
NB : correct me if i am wrong, seriously, this is a religiously matter, i want to know where i am wrong
Stopping reading Hello magazine for your religious education should be a start.
As opposed to a dead being? what about the millions of animals slaughtered after Hajj? Do they count? And the billions killed for food? Should we all switch to healthier vegies instead?
Going to the human aspect of things: what about those laws dealing with chopping off heads and other body parts? They do not count?
I guess I can excuse the stones for shouting it, they’re stoned anyway, but the trees too? I guess that depends on what kind of plant it is!
What I’m trying to say is that as Allah is the epitome of love and peace, then by definition this hadith is suspect. Further, stay away from preaching religion if you are not qualified to do so and try to give the others the benefit of the doubt rather than pour more fuel on raging fires.
1st i dont know who gave u the name mahmood, mahmood comes from the word hamad, which means he who praises Allah, but from ur answering u dont seem to be praising. (Allah knows best)
2nd Do u even know the difference between killing & slaughtering
3rd “I guess I can excuse the stones for shouting it, they’re stoned anyway, but the trees too? I guess that depends on what kind of plant it is!“, stop making fun of islam lest u wanna be one of the losers in the end.
4th “What I’m trying to say is that as Allah is the epitome of love and peace, then by definition this hadith is suspect. Further, stay away from preaching religion if you are not qualified to do so and try to give the others the benefit of the doubt rather than pour more fuel on raging fires“, i dont which religion u have been following
5th “Allah is the epitome of love and peace“, only for those who follow his path & believe him, do u not remember the pharoah & the splitting of the sea
6th “then by definition this hadith is suspect“, let me tell u this a bukhari hadith, & the book of bukhari is the most liked book by Allah After the books of Allah, i.e. Quran, Toraat, Injeel & zabur
if ur meaning – of qualified is earning a degree then answer this, which degree did the prophet Muhammed PBUH have to teach the islamic ways. Giving knowledge is also earning the blessing of Allah
if not then in, one of the Prophet Muhammed PBUH, Hadith he stated “Teach my teachings even if it is 1 word“
According to whom? Did you get an email from Allah about this?
Look bub, it’s clear from the tripe your write that you’re force-fed and fattened on the good stuff and I won’t waste my time with you.
But before I go:
So you’re comparing yourself and your level of minute knowledge with that of the great Prophet? Shame on you! You are nothing compared to the great man and you certainly do not know what you are talking about, so IF the hadith you brought up:
is actually correct, then a much more correct one would be little knowledge is dangerous.
The problem we have with Islam today is people like you, who know next to nothing about the vagaries of Islam, mounting the pulpit and spewing crap at people.
What you are doing is not a service to Islam, but you and your likes would certainly accelerate its destruction.
Now go back to your Hello magazines. They certainly contain much more information about Islam than currently residing in your gray matter.
if i may jump in,
the problem, touqeer, is that it is not possible to have a discussion with someone who responds with quotationst …you are just regurgitating what you read and what you were told. nothing you have posted is an original thought of yours.
if your life were being snuffed, would it matter that much?!!
and he told you this when???!!
passing on knowledge to those who are interested, yes, spreading brainwashed ignorance, no
knowledge is what you know as fact, not what you learned by heart from wherever.
“Did you get an email from Allah about this?“, keep joking, good for U.
I dont even know if u are even a muslim
U can say anything u like, i know what i know.
Need not argue with u over what i know, i need no comments from u over what i do or say
U do what u do & i’ll do what i do
I didnt like that attitude of Urs in the 1st place.
Oh how quaint.
But when you’re ready to defend your beliefs, you’re more than welcome to come and comment again. Until then, you have an awful lot of reading to do which will hopefully open your mind sufficiently to understand the value of tolerance.
“Did you get an email from Allah about this?“, keep joking, good for U.
I dont even know if u are even a muslim
U can say anything u like, i know what i know.
Need not argue with u over what i know, i need no comments from u over what i do or say
U do what u do & i’ll do what i do
I didnt like that attitude of Urs in the 1st place.
“so IF the hadith you brought up: Teach my teachings even if it is 1 word“, i didnt bring up this hadith, this hadith in arabic is like this
“Hadithu rilalati walou bey kalima”, or as the prophet PBUH said
Mr can we talk,
just answer me, Do u know the difference between killing & slaughtering.
Yes or No
?2 – Do U know the Dajjal.
Yes or No
touqeer,
Do you agree with Yusuf Al-Qaradawi about the punishment for “sexual perverts”?
And don’t just find a different verse, give me your own opinion.
It’s MISS CWT to you! (one that will refuse to be a letter-box ninja, much to your chagrin :ninja: )
Anyway, back to the topic:
What does it matter? Does the conversation change depending on what religion the person you are talking to happen to be? In any case, a person’s religion is no concern of yours. What should be your concern is the intellectual conversation we are having. Now are you intelligent enough to continue this conversation without slaughtering your logic and killing off your brain cells?
Okay, you didn’t brung it, but you certainly didn’t understand it. Just parroting it doesn’t count as understanding.
Yes.
Okay, you didn’t brung it, but you certainly didn’t understand it. Just parroting it doesn’t count as understanding, Explain me that hadith then…
WHo is dajjal then mr Mahmood & where will he be found
Explain…
What’s your serial number again? Please find the warranty you came with and get back to the factory for a much needed overhaul.
What a dimwit!
i knew u were of those people who themselves dont know anything, just know to criticise others, thanks no more arguments with mr mahmood, knower of 0 only.
Do you agree with Yusuf Al-Qaradawi about the punishment for “sexual perverts�
And don’t just find a different verse, give me your own opinion
Sorry cannot give u my opinion, what quran says is the truth
muslim sexual perverts caught must be lashed 80 times
What does it matter? Does the conversation…
DEPENDS IF THE conversation is conversation is about something specific
What does it matter? Does the conversation…
DEPENDS IF THE conversation is about something specific
SPECIALLY WHEN DEBATING ABOUT RELIGION…
touqeer
both the things you asked about have nothing to do with the discussion
yes, you did. you brought it up here when you didn’t have an answer of your own
thank you, you have proved my point.
it is useless to attempt a discussion with someone who claims that they always have TRUTH on their side. they will always resort to that whenever they don’t have a logical response.
this is a characteristic shared by all religious extremists (of all religions) and by the flock that follow them blindly with their switches in the off position.
to me, sexual perverts means paedophiles and rapists.
Awwwww come on, you’re providing us with such enteratainment, purleeeze (yes, look it up) don’t give up now, I want to be educated wallah alatheem I do I do I do!
Hang on, can we please meet in the fast lane of Shaikh Zayed Road at around 6.30PM, just after Isha prayers? I’d like to discuss these things with you in person. Make sure you get there before me please. I’ll bring the spatula and bucket.
Mr can we talk, how much do U know islam…
Nothing i believe.
Simply put that is not the answer u wanted to hear that is the reason u said that : it is useless to attempt a discussion with someone who claims that they always have TRUTH on their side. they will always resort to that whenever they don’t have a logical response
it is useless to attempt a discussion with someone who claims that they always have TRUTH on their side, truth is truth, it does not need any side, i didnt say anything apart from what is written in Quran (words of Allah)
Useless to answer to U, if u were a muslim u would have understood…unlike christians who write their own books claiming these are the words of God (false gods).
Jesus is no god he will return, & all christians will see & their eyes will come out as golf balls then will be the triumph of islam, islam will rule the world…
Mr mahmood, u said that the hadith i said doesnot exists…
forget it no more comments with U, need not waste my time with u
now u find islam & hadiths entertaining…
Yarhamkallah, nauzubillahiminashitanirajeem
LISTEN TO MR MAHMOOD,
6:30 JUST AFTER ISHA PRAYER…
MUST BE KIDDING, SINCE WHEN ISHA PRAYER STARTED TO HAPPEN AT 6:30.
I KNEW U WERE NEVER A TRUE MUSLIM, BUT BY NAME ONLY
HEHREHHAHEHAHEHHEHEA AHEHAHEA
MORE! MORE!
FINALLY I HAVE COME TO KNOW MR MAHMOOD, DOES NOT BELIEVE THE EXISTENCE OF ALLAH, OR HE WOULDNT HAVE LAUGHED AT THIS IMMINENT EVENT, THE WORLD WILL WITNESS.
I HAVE NOTICED THAT MR MAHMOOD TALKS IN A WORDLY LANGUAGE, WELL I DONT, SO DONT WASTE UR TIME WITH ME
MR DOCSPENCER, ANY QUESTIONS REGARDING ISLAM CONTACT MY EMAIL, I AM NOT A SCHOLAR, BUT MIGHT BE ABLE TO HELP U, & IF U THINK I AM UNFIT TO ANSWER, BYE.
NO MORE COMMENTING HERE, THE IMMINENT EVENT HAS BEEN MADE FUN OF.
KEEP UR EYES OPEN…
EISA AS
DAJJAL
GAYISM
LESBIANISM
MURDER
MASSACARE
FRAUD
CHEATING
SEX
ARE JUST SOME OF THE PORTENTS THAT WILL LEAD TO THE HOUR…
NO JOKE.
BYE FROM ME…NO BODY HAS WITNESSED ALLAH’S WRATH & WHEN THEY WILL THEN THEY WILL REALISE, BUT IT WILL BE TOO LATE
BYE.
It is in Pakistan isn’t it? You should know better! But in any case, I’d like to meet you in the fast lane of Shaikh Zayed’s Road at the busiest hour, you take your pick. The spatula and buckets are still ready.
and it’s not
You can’t even speak Arabic properly for God’s sake. It is Na’outh bilLah (no I) min ALshaytan ALrajeem.
In Arabic, it would be نعوذ بالله منالشيطانالرجيم
on an intellectual level, yes I do. They enrich the human experience and they are not all blood and gore. That version of Islam is exclusive to you and your likes.
But you take this out of context, typically, you find yourself losing an argument and you bring out the Kufr thing as if that would scare me. I would politely ask you to shove that idea up your orifice which normally does not see the sun.
To bring it back into context; I said that I find you entertaining. You know, like a stupid monkey really. No offence to monkeys of course.
Ehm. Okay then. But thanks for all those lovely terms, I’m sure quite a number of Google researchers would end up here unnecessarily, to those I offer my apologies.
To you, I only say الله يهديك (May Allah guide you) – if there is any hope left in that empty chamber atop your skull.
And stop having tantrums, it’s not becoming of such a good Muslim as yourself! :w00t:
why is it that ‘moslems’ are more obsessed with sex than anything else?
and dr spencer, the reason i was saying it was dangerous is because i didnt want to hurt your ego – if you honestly think that only hookers fake org**sms then you need to rethink your sexual history and experiences. and most men cannot tell when an org**m is faked.
and touqeer, you need to lighten up. if Allah didnt want us to have sex and enjoy it, he would have never created our bodies the way they are created. Unless you think that God has chosen You to do His work for Him on this Earth .. in which case I receommend that perhaps you apply to the religious police in Saudi Arabia. Perhaps you can get a job looking through all the satellite porn channels so that you know which ones are haram. and Perhaps you can check all he confiscated DVD’s as well. Because the Infidels just keep making them and making them and you just have to be the one that stops their spreading and corruption of today’s good sexualy obssesed ‘moslem’ men … in fact, maybe they’ll let you have your own live feed so you can actually MEASURE all the different positions and perversions and how far they are to your True Religion.
I personally think that you need to get laid. Maybe then you wouldn’t be so goddamn obsessed with it. or, given your differentiation between male and female homosexuality, perhaps you should indulge in your own repressed fantasies some time and come out of the closet … trust me, no-one here cares.
TELL ME HOW MUCH ISLAM U KNOW…
CHALLANGE ME…
GAP IN YEARS BETWEEN EISA AS & PROPHET MUHAMMED PBUH
Oh boy. You got me on the wrong day. OK. Let’s start with Question number 1. When the Prophet married the 9 year old girl, how long did he wait, if at all, before he had sexual relations with her?
MRS JEDI I WAS ASKING MAHMOOD NOT U
AND BY THE WAY MRS JEDI, WHO IS TALKING SEX NOW MORE ME OR U?
DID I ASK ANY SEX RELATED QUESTIONS
if Allah didnt want us to have sex and enjoy it
Allah has asked to have sex only with our wives, anything outside is transgressed & punishable
if Allah didnt want us to have sex and enjoy it
Allah has ordered to have sex only with our wives, anything outside is transgressed & punishable
if Allah didnt want us to have sex and enjoy it
Allah has ordered to have sex only with our wives, so did Prophet Muhammed PBUH, anything outside is transgressed & punishable
It’s Mr. Mahmood to you.
Okay, are you ready? Here’s my question:
When the Prophet married the 9 year old girl, how long did he wait, if at all, before he had sexual relations with her?
I’m sure we can find many more things for you to ponder, we do so enjoy seeing you chasing your own tail!
Its Ms Jedi to you ..
And what, you don’t like challenges from Women? We don’t count? Just because the Qoran or the Hadith says that we are worth 1/2 (or is it 1/4) of a man??
For the Love of God …
wives only
Mr mahmood has not answered my question :
Gap between Eisa AS & Prophet Muhammed PBUH in years ?
Mr mahmood has not answered my question :
Gap between Eisa AS & Prophet Muhammed PBUH in years ?
which is asked 1st
you know what? I now know why cats like to play with their food before eating it. This is just sooooo much fun! :devil:
Do you want it in Hijri, Christian or Pagan years? While you calculate, can you please also answer JJ and my question? It is your duty as a Muslim as you said above to spread knowledge. So educate me, when was the deed done?
normal years that calculate…
u want the answer in hijri or which calender…
And by the way from where did u calculate that Ayesha RA’s age to be nine, different hadith have different views some have 9, some have 16…ask a solid question…
no sexual or personal questions…
I started the game, I lay the rules…
if u follow…OK
If NOT I BYE.
Get it…
why is it that ‘moslems’ are more obsessed with sex than anything else
Since mrs jasra jedi’s mind is filled with sex obssessed things she can only think of others thinking of sex.
how come MRs Jedi u didnt notice the following :
EISA AS
DAJJAL
MURDER
MASSACARE
FRAUD
CHEATING
Well if you take it like that, I own this website so I take precidence. Now answer the damn question or shut up and bugger off.
You are a disgrace to my religion and people.
But let’s humour your minute brain:
2007 – 570 + 1 = 1,438 years
Now tell me grasshopper, why are there so many spelling mistakes in the Quran?
She told you she is a “Miss” ya مخدَّي. Use it.
Now the dear lady asked you a simple question, o knowledgeable one, answer her solidly. When was the deed done? With references please.
NO probs u can search the net…
keep searching…while give u the ultimate answer
600 years, according to bukhari
Ur answer, sexual relations can be made as the reaches adulthood (Baligh).
U Loose…
Timeout…
Bye.
Why is anyone actually bothering to respond to touqeer (is that supposed to be “too queer”?). It has to be some spotty, awkward teenager who was drawn to the original subject matter and is now playing silly games to (successfully) annoy anyone with an IQ greater than a single digit.
And why are you concentrating on violence? At least with sex it’s pleasurable and never harmed anyone, but with violence you again demonstrate your depravity.
Abu
This is so much FUN to read! Though is does make me feel a little guilty that I skipped church this morning in reading this. :devil:
J.J. I think you need to start blogging! I would enjoy visiting it as I am sure many many others would as well.
116: Mahmood, why do you need to be so damn insulting to this guy?
Mahmood, you do it often if you do not like what others say. You become an abusive, insulting person if someone posts something that you disagree with or do not like. There is no need to do that. And you do not have the intestinal fortitude to apologize for it. That’s an ego problem that needs help.
By the way, I do not have a blog since you brought it up. I have many Web sites, the one based on our visit to Bahrain and Dubai is bahraindubai.info for an American and European audience, because we are very ill informed about Islam. My wife and I iked the people we met very much.
Toqueer, I have a page there about Islam. Feel free to comment on it and especially its conclusions at the end.
Vic
Abu, you have no idea how happy I feel now! I know it is almost a voyeuristic pleasure mentally watching the cretin run around like a headless chicken right into oncoming traffic, but that was fun!
Now back to the cretin:
Then Bukhari doesn’t know even simple arithmetic, and if he can’t count, why should we believe anything else that came in his books? So it’s either Bukhari was wrong or you. Which one was it?
Do you by any chance have a 9 year old daughter, sister, cousin or nephew available for marriage? I’m sure we can find her a man 43 years her elder to do her the honour of marriage. Okay okay, how about a girl of 16 then? The delta then would only be 37 years. What a bargain!
Now tell me grasshopper, why are there so many spelling mistakes in the Quran?
This is an answer from those who dont know how to read the Holy Quran
Man is judged by the company he keeps,
and your choices, well, they leave much to be desired. Not to mention the credibility issue.
Well I shan’t ask for yours that’s to be sure!
And you do not have the intellectual capacity to engage anyone. Other than whining, we haven’t heard much that is worth consideration from you, my dear Doctor.
Yes I can become insulting sometimes, that’s because I just cannot suffer fools – yourself included – lightly and thumping them on the head intellectually will hopefully dislodge the sludge they call brains so that they would think before they open their gob.
It is a miracle that most of the people commenting intelligently on the blog do not suffer these insults, is it not? Why is that?
Well answered, grasshopper, now put your brain in first gear and think about it a little then give me an answer, and examples if you will. Educate me, I challenge you.
Oy, grasshopper, don’t forget to answer this:
and this:
and lastly why are you so infatuated with sex and violence?
And what does your chosen name mean? It’s a bad word in Persian you know that?
Abu, you have no idea how happy I feel now! I know it is almost a voyeuristic pleasure mentally watching the cretin run around like a headless chicken right into oncoming traffic, but that was fun
See Mr Mahmood proved my point, he talks so worldly, as if he ‘ll stay here for ever
were u there when bukhari wrote the ahadith, no, then ho wu knew that bukhari did not know even simple arithematic…fool
Do you by any chance have a 9 year old daughter…
how do u know that Ayesha RA was 9 years, when married no source confirms that…
Well answered, grasshopper, now put your brain in first gear and think about it a little then give me
from where should i start for idiots like U
so mr mahmood thinks he is smart ass answer
how many chickens give 1 egg ?
bet u’ll lose
at a time
That’s the beauty of arithmetic, you don’t have to be there, all you have to do is deal with numbers. Let me refresh your waning memory, my dear little grasshopper. Are you listening? Good:
This is the year of our Lord Jesus Christ 2007
The good Prophet Mohammed, Peace be Upon Him, was born circa 570 if the Common Era
The difference between the two, therefore, is 2007 – 570 + 1 (the one, my dear jumping friend is because year 0 is in reality the first year of the start of that calendar so it should be counted) which gives us: anyone? anyone?
1,438 years
Now, had your question been between the advent of Christianity and Islam, that would have been a bit more difficult because I don’t know when the revelation happened to Prophet Isa Peace be Upon Him, but assuming that like our own dear prophet he got the message at around 40, and assuming that Islam was “completed” at the death of our Prophet in the year of 632 of our Lord Jesus, then that delta (ie, difference) would be:
2007 – 40 – 632 + 1 = 1,336 years.
Capiche?
In either case, Bukhari was very wrong in his calculations. What else is he wrong in, I don’t know. Allah knows better. But I hope not too many things because a lot of people depend on him, much more than on the Quran it seems.
I didn’t and don’t. YOU said:
to which I replied:
So what’s the problem? I’ll accept your 16 year-old daughter or female relative in the way of our great Prophet peace be upon him, unless you don’t believe what he did was right, then that’s a whole different story.
year 0 is in reality the first year of the start
well we have another isaac newton…
now i come to know u are christian…
bye for ever
need no christian argue with a muslim & teach him islam…
u’ll see Eisa As descend…u’ll & the rest of the world’ll see…
bye…need not waste my time here among (fools/idiots/asses) call him (mr mahmood) what ever u like
Oh come on, please don’t go? We were just starting to have fun with you!
(wait for it wait for it, the twerp will come with another brainfart and then bid us adieu again!)
are we on jeopardy??!!! did i miss something??
Ms. please. I am not Mr. and why do you ask questions you think you already know the answers to?
no comment
then quit already. you have obviously lost.
more insults to more people. (lakum deenakum wa liya deen)
LOL. i see you are starting to come up with your own material. that’s a start.
DS,
how else can you talk to someone with the iq of a donut!!
not because he can’t help how he was made, but because he refuses to turn the bloody switch on!!
hehehahhehea I’m going to frame this! :w00t:
touqeer .
yep. thats all i think of. all the time. from the moment i wake up to the moment i go to bed. 24 hours a day. 7 days a week. 365 days a year.
my dear young foolish man. What about having sex with husbands? Does Allah allow that? Or was the Quran dedicated only to the enlightment of Men?
by the way, your buddy bukhari thinks that aysha got married at 6. and that she had sex at 9.
would you care to comment?!
i thought not.
I don’t know about anyone else here, but my eyes have come out as golf balls. :sick: And people think being a xian is easy. Sheesh!
uh, other than a province of China, what’s a xian?
have you caught the disease? x=christ!!
Its an abbreviation for Christian. Like Xmas for Christmas.
Well, it looks like our little man has retired for his nappy or maybe his mommy called him in to do his homework. Too bad 🙁
Mahmood:
Meaning the insults from you of course that you deliver to others daily. People just leave you Mahmood! Look at the small number of people participating compared to your visitors. Because the great majority on this blog is polite, well read and intelligent, and not full of themselves like you are. You like only those who agree with you all the time. You criticise your ministers without doing anything to help them. You are disrespectful. Your gigantic ego is what’s important to you. You have respect only for those who agree with you. You are incredibly insulting with everyone who has a different opinion than you. You ought to look into the mirror every morning gardener, without your shirt on. Ponder what you see. And be more kind even to those with whom you disagree. Come down to earth a bit, and be a little more humble. And it may be in a better form to do videos without you delivering a monolog about your garden, before you insult others about more important topics.
I think you ate too many dingleberries for breakfast again. What do you pour on it? Maybe Imam Qaradawi could suggest something.
Another whine.
God help us.
AGA, thanks for the explanation. Didn’t see it used like that before.
M, good riddance! We seem to be attracting a lot more of his kind here lately. Unfortunate, but ultimately they will go away and crawl into their own universe and leave us alone.
Doc who’s blog is this anyway? Have you ever lived out of the states before? You, nor I don’t have a clue about what goes on in Bahrain. Zip it…
Doc When you are a guest in someone’s house you abide by their rules.
Mahmood,
You are probably getting more of the nutjobs cause you’re famous now. :biggrin:
In any case, it’s important for everyone to hear the crap they sprout, within reason of course; while they perceive themselves as brilliant and righteous, it’s important for people to see how they justify themselves and their beliefs. It’s also important they be challenged by others, because you can never let their kind of slime influence others without holding their feet to the fire. Just my 2 cents.
Doc,
Bill is right. Nobody died and made you King. Color within the lines or go away.
M is right of course. Some of the drivel written by blinkered cretins makes anyone with a reasonably educated and open mind bounce between annoyance, bewilderment and cringing. However, we do need to know how polluted the gene pool is in order to understand just how difficult/impossible the human species can be.
No, I don’t believe I’m always right (far from it), and I am always ready to listen to another’s opinion. But that doesn’t mean I have to agree with it and, if I don’t, I will not resort to juvenile personal insults.
Wow, I am shocked Mahmood still replies after almost 200 comments. Anyway, I just wanted to say 2 things:
1- What Qardawi said isn’t as bad as one might think at first. In fact I believe that what he said is true. It is risky. And in addition, what he said is something that all of us Arab women have heard at least once in our lives. I mean parents never want to talk about masturbation but when they do they just do so to warn their daughters from the hazards of “putting something in”. Pretty pathetic. But what’s rally ridiculous is his conclusion on the matter, inno, to preserve your hymen don’t masturbate! that’s ridiculous and impossible to apply. If this guy would have come to the conclusion that “inserting stuff” is wrong, then that would have been a very smart and good move. But to say “don’t masturbate” is stupid.Which proves that this guy knows very little about female sexuality, what he talked about showed he watches too much “european media” but never really tried to understand what women want, do or search for.
2- I believe that talking about this subject was a very smart move, yes there’s a million subject that could be posted proving the hypocrisy, ignorance and perversion of some religious authorities. But the point of this film was probably not to talk about how wrong Qardawi was but to talk about how masturbation is seen, first of all female masturbation but also male masturbation. We really don’t want to admit it but we are very blinded about these things, we leave the young people struggle with this all alone. These young people often grow up in total ignorance about it and just see it as a sin, probably a far worse sin than sex itself, because everyone talks about sex but no one does so about masturbation. You’d be shocked to know how many people think that they are the only ones to do it! Imagine the guilt and the consequences of such situations.
Touqueer:
Tooqueer, I would like to contact you but don’t know your email and don’t know how to find it. Mine is vicspencer@charter.net. Feel free to write, I have more questions.
JJ, my ego is not fragile. I did not say that “only” prostitutes fake orgasms. For them it is much more frequent simply because they have sex many times each day. The reason for using fake orgasms is customer satisfaction. Many women try to fake it also, it’s not a big deal, but not all women, and nowhere near as often obviously. Some men know what to do. And if a man talks to their doctor about it, they will be able to feel the lack of some obvious autonomic orgasmic responses from the women and will be able to tell that the orgasm is fake. Especially with women say under 40. Men would also be wise to talk to their doctor about how to be better at satisfying a women. Then you ladies would not have to fake it! The real stuff feels much better. Especially since you have the capability to have multiple orgasms much more often than men do.
Gen, I spent 19 yrs outside of the USA, part of it in some islamic countries.
Best regards,
Vic
OMG WTF??? I feel sorry for them living like the jews in the 18th century. wait this guys ascertation is that if the woman uses her clitty too much that she will be too sensitive and reject guys.
NOOOOOOO maybe if you took a bath and shaved a bit
you moron you might get some play and now spell it with me dipwad D E O D O R A N T!!!!
It doesn’t surprise me working in a jewish area there
the same pinhead mentality that we should really learn
to ingnore. because why bend to their level of stupidity???
islam, tries its best to tackle problems that make people in doubt, on whether its the right or wrong thing to do. bil sharee3a wil deen , it guides the poeple to take the rightous path. a7een zaiin minna hal shai5, he is discussing a situation like this with the people, 3ashan he opens the minds of females in doubt. obviously he didnt choose to discuss this topic, since he is on a talk show on qatar tv, akeed he was given a certain question which relates to this “feminin” topic. and tried his best to discuss it without causing any unethical figures of speech. Oo min int o5oy? 3ashan tintiqid rajul deen , oo shai5 mu7tarram ? 3aib 3alaik , keep your opinions to urself, if you dont want to get critisized. im not in the position to tell you what you can say or not say about any one, because ur a grown up adult, who obviously, by ur sense of language and linguistical abilities, i must say you are a very well educated intellectual. bas you must know that il “nameema” which is to critize and talk negativley about a person behind, his/her back, is considered 7araam. out of all people i expected you, to know that, since you manage a whole site, and supposedly must be a liberal and be on no ones side, but by posting this video you are contradicting your position as a person who is supposed to not take sides on any matter, topic, argument. But hey we are all humans and we all make mistakes
to mahmood
see mahmood, how you lead western people to critisize us and look down at islam, you did a great job contributing agaisnt degrading the way people look at our relegion. kifaaya illy already they are trying to make inner conflicts between islamic beleifs within our arab countries. ba3ad you go and help them more ?
mashalla 3alaik o5oy mahmood 🙂 barak allah feek o5oy, allah isam7ek inshallla
hey dont get me wrong man, im just a guy who is using the previlage of free speech, which i think you support 🙂 so no hard feelings
Speaking of linguistic skills, I would advise you to stay at school as that might – just might – improve yours. I can live with the dearth of that facet, what you shouldn’t is your superfluous understanding of culture and religion.
Once you do grow a position which you can defend without getting personal, come back and talk with the big boys, until then I advise you to stay with the IM-like-like-crowd whose mental capacity does not exceed the lower double figures in intelligence quotient.
As for the “looking down on Islam” bit, try harder. I did not. It is; however, people like you who perpetuate it with your hard-and-fast parroting overused idioms you have no understanding or comprehension of.
Should you wish to translate the above into a language you can understand, try cracking a book once in a while, something that could tickle your fickle intellect and exercise it to hopefully not trip on your IQ. Failing that, there is always the instant gratification provided by Google translation services.
Good luck in whatever you decide to do, son, and no hard feelings.
la 7abeeby i understand well what you are saying, yea maybe im a lil weaker in english than you, cuz:) im a boy your a man, you gained more experience in that feild. and your using your virtouso and expertise in the english feild to amaze and ascertain people with your ability of fluently speaking english. Like a farmer herding his sheep, you amaze us with ur linguistical abilities. take advantage over less capable people and crush us with your big words. No im soo amazed by you man 🙂 re-assuring yourself that you are at a high level of linguistical abilities. Now you go and talk with the big boys out there, who can easily crush you with there fantastic english abilities.
But that is not the subject of matter, i respect the purpose of this site, which is discussing and looking at both sides of the argument on a certain topic. But you my friend, a man of such intelligence and understanding, post a video and attack your own relegion , make people revolt more agaisnt islam. I thought you knew better man. Instead of making fun and critsizing our relegion, we should unite, defend our relegion. the wests primary goal is to make arabs revolt agaisnt islam , and create conflicts within arab countries. by posting this video, you have prooven to me, and the west, that you have fullfilled what they want:)
I highly respect your intelligence, and im asking you to use it to protect, and sheild islam from such abominable people. not to go side by side with them :S.
oh boy!
Okay, let me try to elucidate the points in monosyllables:
Not when it doesn’t make sense.
No, they have other, much more urgent concerns.
No, we are very good at that ourselves. We hardly need any outside incentives.
No, I have shown that this idiot is one of the main reasons that we still live in the aura of 1,400 years ago and everyone – EVERYONE – on God’s green Earth has surpassed us in every area imaginable; while youth like yourself – who should be our hope and salvation for the future – religiously parrot incomprehensible and inexcusable excuses in the name of “protecting our religion and culture”.
Son, I advise you to think for yourself rather than accept everything you are told as gospel truth.
i am speaking by what i percieve and beleive is to be truth, not because of what i have seen or what i have been told. infact it is people like you who are aiding in degrading and making arabs look more primitive. masturbation is something that happened 1400 years ago and is still going on. islam tackles and discusses issues and problems persistent from more than a thousand years ago , until now. If you are a true muslim you would have read that islam is relevant with all era’s. its the west which has persuaded people , and brainwashed unfortunately some arabs too, into thinking islam is a primitive relegion, and its old school . and again, please dont critisize my use of language, for a persons intelligence is not judged by his ability to use words or speak. I am just expressing what I beleive in, I ‘am sorry if what I think or beleive in, contradicts with your beleifs. sinice your site supports free speech. I felt keen and inclined to express myself. bil3aks man, I appretiate your site, because it is not just any sitie, its an oppritunity to look at both sides of any issue, appretiate peoples ideas, and try to accept them. But I guess you cannot, accept my ideas and points of views
Fahad, you’re a wanker. That’s what you allude to in your responses. That’s fine. But once you’re spent, please re-engage your brain.
You’ve burnt your cards, little grasshopper. I shall not engage you henceforth as you are not worth it.
Ah yes, thumbs are a prerequisite too and you lack both. So what was that middle thing again?
Most indubitably, grasshopper, most certainly. I subscribe to the Islam that called on engaging brain more than resorting to culturally restricted interpretations.
There is hope – I hope – that you will find enlightenment at some point in your life. But I doubt very much that you will find that without allowing yourself to stop and think once in a while.
Bye bye.
grasshopper?:S hmm any ways
islam is my enlightment, for it guides me to peace and truth, and a promised paradise in the after life. hey man i know these words sound nothing but primitive to such an *enlightened* man like yourself.
But hey, atleast im not the one who is putting his mind with a person younger than him. go show off your enlightment to people your age, instead of showing it off here to people llike us, who suffer from *inanity*
Wanking a sin?, what about blow jobs?
Enlighten me oh great masters of the sandy spaces!
What the hell??? 😯 So if I was really horny and wanted sex, what should I do? Kill myself??? 😥 I hate this world
Mahmood
You are a courageous man taking on the demented Zealots that threaten to drag innocent muslim minds into the abyss of
cruel, narrow mindedness…If these guys have their way all women would be castrated from childhood to prevent them daring to sin by masturbating when they grow up….
Female castration actually takes place still today in parts of Afica in the name of piety….and goodness knows what else..
Its sad to see how some people are so preoccupied with controlling others and yet have so little self – control themselves…
Don´t they know that controlling their firey tongues would be a better service to mankind
then heaping shame and humiliation on the weaker and may I add FAIRER sex…
whoops … replace the word circumcised for castrated.. in the last comment … I bet that got your atte 😀 tion